There has been speculation about a secret space program for decades. Some information and proponents (whistleblowers) have entered the Ufology scene on many occasions over the years. It seem the debate is reaching epic proportions now with the various ‘experts’ in the field.
I have to profess I do not know Corey Goode, but I do David Wilcock. I’ve known the latter for over a decade and I find his sharing of information seems to be solely based on regurgitation rather than sincere research. He sure has the attention of a lot of folks, but is it a genuine and sincere representation of the facts that are ‘out there’ for us all to discover?
I’ve observed Andrew Basiago for some years now, always a bit uneasy in my perception of him, paralleled with what I sense with Randy Kramer. I love to believe stuff, though, so my spidey sense may or may not be correct. I tend to trust it although I don’t always have outright proof to back it up.
That being said, I’ve known Richard Dolan and Michael Salla for a while; Richard and few years and some time in personal conversations that were relevant as well as Michael, whom I’ve known for over a decade. We greet each other by name and pleasantries always. Both have done their fair share of research and have intelligent if not brilliant minds.
Their personalities are juxtaposed by their gullible and suspicious natures, it seems. Their professional admiration and respect for each other allows some interesting dialog about this [SSP] particular subject recently. There appears to be sufficient magnetizm to the subject to polarize many and, imho, perhaps manages to distract us from and obfuscate the truth.
It seemed to start with Bill Ryan’s bold statement and video a few months back. I also know Bill to be a relatively level-headed individual whom I’ve known about as long as Michael Salla. I met Bill and Kerry Cassidy during the early days of Project Camelot (no longer partners and the last time I saw Kerry she seemed out of control paranoid) during a conversation with Ralph Ring at the IUFOC in Laughlin in 2007. I didn’t know who they were at the time, but seemed to be lurking waiting to speak to Ralph, so we invited them to sit with us.
Nowadays there are many factions playing out in the field of Ufology and few of them, other than a few true professionals, focus on congruent and/or consistent threads of information that come from different sources, as a sign of potential reality in truth. Individuals with non-verifiable information and/or documentation that is only validated by one or two individuals still remains a bit suspicious, but does not make it false.
Richard Dolan has always seemed to be a consummate professional, as well as Michael Salla. Both have responded differently and have engaged an interesting public dialog, Richard in his usual straightforward nature and Michael sharing what he believes to be validation. It seems they both are getting extra press as well as the whistleblowers.
I tend to wonder just how any ‘leaks’ of information would really benefit the public. The programs are perhaps undeniable and, at best, spoken of only in passing interest but certainly not available as any transparent program as of yet. The public may not be able to handle the truth, frankly. It does provide for some very interesting debate and distraction from our daily travails, though.
I wonder if there is yet something more at play, beyond the ‘secrecy’ and more in the open for anyone to experience. We all are familiar with the best hiding places, right? That would be right out in the open and so incredulous to most that it is easily and quickly dismissed by nearly everyone except a few.
I think Ruth Montgomery and others wrote about such things decades ago and their topics still don’t see the light of day in hardly any organized Ufology events. As a final thought, I wonder how the secret space program got thrown into Ufology in the first place.
Contact in the Desert, now in its fourth year and as usual, brought dynamics of experience, perception and research in the thoughtmosphere provided some polarizing information among the presentations at . We all get polarized from time to time and have our moments of not knowing what to believe in. There is plenty of information from both sides, since I mentioned polarity. What’s in the center of that? Our hearts, serene and still, in harmony with the balance within.
The latter was the conversation that seemed to permeate the atmosphere of the patrons at the recent Contact in the Desert, like it was the common message many were receiving. The event itself surely seemed like the advertised, Woodstock of UFOlogy, even with the intense heat that nearly reached 110 degrees at times there were over 2,000 patrons in attendance.
In the outer world we no doubt are challenged with ethical, moral and environmental choices on a daily basis. Some in critical places are in a moment to moment scenario often, even more intense and vulnerable than we can imagine. They are everywhere within the ‘system,’ working for the good of all with the people, places and things in place. As a contract facilitator, I sometimes gain access to really cool projects that give me a birds-eye view from inside and an opportunity to have an impact on personal and professional development of the stakeholders.
As things go, several interviews didn’t make it. One did, though, with Jimmy Church. You’ll find it below. It’s raw, short and poignant. The most notable addition to the fray was Graham Hancock, a researcher in consciousness from the UK, whose work is provocative and worthy of consideration in the author’s opinion. I had a much longer chat with Emmy Award winning director Sid Goldberg, who was conducting a number of on-camera interviews for Earth Mystery News.
The latter emerges as better systems. Certainly there are choices of how to proceed in such fashion. This year’s event was even larger, perhaps 2500 or so, and campers were everywhere. The patrons were no longer the normal patrons and familiar faces from decades of building relationships, but a whole new crowd that included multitudes of millennials. Scheduled presentations and talks began early and festivities lasted until midnight, including a birthday party for George Noory with a live band and dance afterward.
Saturday night’s activities also included a skywatch, where some very interesting lights passed by in succession during the session. The evening began with a bit of centering offered by Kris, one of the amazing folks that kept things running smoothly. The common element of initiating any kind of contact seems to be the willingness to suspend fear of any kind within oneself. It frees the mind/body/spirit to be available for a much different kind of communication, subtler and more refined than any spoken language.
Sunday night’s ceremony included Dr. Dream and his Band of Angels. Yes, that’s me in the background. He lead a process of spritzing the audience with essential oils while using singing bowls and affirmations to perform what he calls a ‘galactivation,’ where each chakra is energized and vibrationally attuned through the bowls. 333 bowls were distributed in 19 stations around approximately 1,000 to 1500. The harmonics created from octaves of the same note had its effects for sure. It was in preparation for contact with James Gilliland, founder of ECETI
People make the difference in how we proceed with the information and inspiration from these events. Many come out of curiosity. Many come out of sincere interest. Even others come to connect with others, driven by their own experience and understanding of this thing we call ‘extraterrestrial engagement’ that is often obfuscated by emotion and insufficient intrigue. Those so driven recognize a certain change in how reality works for them, providing tasty tidbits in the breadcrumbs along the trail. At times they report it to be quite magical, recognizing the inherent energy of an inconceivably intelligent symphony.
I hear a lot about different conspiracies throughout the ufology community. It has been a mainstay of the disclosure movement. The same exists in other populations that might be considered ‘fringe,’ the age-old story of us vs. them. The last few decades of research across a number of fields strongly suggests there are levels of consciousness that, heretofore, have not been readily shared in public except in small clusters or communities, mostly indigenous. It’s my experience that folks inside the ‘system’ in question, at least in my limited exposure, do their best in an overwhelmingly complex system to handle the needs of those coming here in search of a better life. Creating housing and support for them, especially the children, is a huge responsibility and it has been taken on.
My limited exposure includes facilitating pre-construction partnering workshops for various State and Federal projects, like the F-35 Operations and Maintenance Facility at Luke AFB in Arizona and an upcoming one for Homeland Security and a centralized processing center (CPC) for the droves of unaccompanied children crossing our borders daily. We think in such simple terms about life and love, not realizing the complexity of the organization necessary to deliver any public service let alone the compassion of those in direct contact.
Experiences of those who’ve been contactees and learned of their own choice and empowerment in the process concede that the organizational capacity of these other life forms is so far beyond our comprehension it goes beyond understatement. They’re here, have been here a long, long, long time and yet remained at a distance because of our own need to develop as a planetary civilization, including the transformation from ego to wego we are currently experiencing.
Can you imagine what it takes to coordinate thousands of people to achieve a goal of any kind? It is a production of immense complexity, from talent development (human resources) to the places and things required to deliver the product. Conversations during the CITD event echoed such consideration and compassion for the evolution of our specie, accepting we’ve had a rocky road to date and that change happens as we become more accountable and responsible in our own actions, at whatever level our passion or purpose may invite. Individuals gravitate to resonant fields of performance, from the very material to the very esoteric.
Best practices now include holistic systems thinking and talent development includes personal mastery. Like any personal discipline takes years to develop, these kinds of structures take time to change let alone the attitudes from apathy to victimization, all with inherent separative components, that are drug kicking and screaming into a new order. That order begins with learning how to get along and work together toward common goals that emerge from assessing the needs of whatever community is involved. I’m in awe of the process. It naturally draws us toward harmony, understanding and a willingness to work better at being.
In that awe, perhaps, is a core intention of good will and harmony among people and planet. In an unimpeded system, holistic in nature, the natural order would be complementary, even a synergy of symbiotic systems already present. We haven’t been able to adjust our vision until recently, a parallel to the near-vertical information curve we all know about, right? As a trained neutral, facilitator, I get to play a kind of Aikido in the thoughtmosphere when deterrents to progress come up.
These new practices and understanding are permeating the world, slowly, and as we get better at building delivery systems. the time between the clustered housing and finding homes and/or family here already will diminish dramatically. I admit my view has been limited, but at least it’s a view. 🙂 Do you think aliens would treat illegals seeking a better life differently? It would seem only obvious they’ve evolved through our present dilemmas.
The leadership of the ufology community is now considering the development of consciousness and our misunderstanding of the motives due to our lack of awareness, not of ‘them’ but of ourselves. As Jimmy says, “We’re about 22,” as a population. Millions of experiencers are beginning to compare notes on-line and in-person at events like this where being weird is the norm. The experiences are consistent in description of some ‘states’ across the Near-Death Studies, Consciousness Movement, Quantum Theory and the Contact Experiences, which I also weave through Zendor the Contrarian: A Seminal View of Consciousness, Cosmology and the Congruence of Science and Spirituality
Interview with Jimmy Church, in the midst of the magic… (audio is unfiltered, crowd noise may impede clarity). Enjoy! btw.. it’s interesting that just after a few days the parent site UfologyPRSS.com is experiencing some major technical difficulties. In our first three years, this is the first time the site has had problems. Please be patient.
This so reminds me of Ruth Montgomery’s book, and I hope if you haven’t read it that you do so. Alrightythen, the information this video presents I find to be personally conflicting with a vast experiential reality I know to be true for me. It includes several near-death experiences, one of which I encountered hundreds of points of lights that I was informed I was to work with in order to facilitate a new world order (harmony among people and planet) and that it would happen in my lifetime. Incredulous as that may sound, I’ve lived my life accordingly and have developed an understanding and trust with every race I’ve encountered – NONE of them have any intention of invading or taking over Earth… PERIOD. It just doesn’t work that way.
My life experiences also include life-long contact and interaction beyond most of the things you read about and/or hear about all over the Net. I’m okay with being an outcast and social misfit. As a matter of fact, that was the name of the band I played in for years – Outcasts and Social Misfits. I began contact on board an orange cigar-shaped ship, noted in Ruth’s book as the most common contact experience in the Midwest in the late 50s and early 60s. They’ve progressed to the point where I get pulled in to conferences on board or even ‘somewhere in consciousness,’ occasionally while I’m functioning in an organizer and/or presenter role here on Earth simultaneously. It usually happens during times of respite, though.
The process we are engaging now and what I feel ‘The Conduit is Closing’ referred to is one of the notion of any fear-based living, wherever the notion may find a hook in human consciousness. The natural order of the universe is one of harmony, chaordic (chaos to order) in nature yet, like the tesseract, is constantly moving forward. I’ve witnessed this as a sense of connectedness and ‘oneness’ within humanity at present. There are certainly many who exhibit an advanced sense of knowing, understanding and even living this truth.
Innumerable planetary civilizations have evolved throughout the universe, each experiencing the movement toward a multidimensional experience. There have even been psycho-spiritual technologies presented here for exploration of this potential, and often experiencable, reality. One such is called the Multi-plane Awareness Technique and I experienced it in 1989. I’ve also made it available online for others and incorporated the 9 Solfeggio frequencies, too. Perhaps it may help you in your own exploration. There is a certain faith and trust involved in the evolution of self toward Self, from ego to Wego. This can be a key component of exploring the realms of cosmic consciousness we have, condensed into these forms as Natural Order.
Now on the subject of human hybrids. I find this notion a bit shallow and certainly separative in nature, but completely understandable as a label put on those who are advanced souls (or whatever you might call them) that exhibit certain behaviors and capabilities of demonstrating, through articulation and actual living, appearing anomalous to most human perceptions. These sorts, not being out of sort, have often remained hidden and yet influential in seeding the thoughtmosphere, able to use telepathic skills to create multiple levels of communication – human to human and ‘transceivers’ for celestial/cosmic/federation (yes, the Ashtar Command/Galactic Federation is made up of all races, united as ONE to help humanity evolve toward its rightful place in universe affairs) communication.
What humans listening to such things as the video above fail to recognize is that it is shared through human lenses, steeped in duality and inconsistent with cosmic consciousness. Humans, having the choice to stay separate or join as one, often remain separate because of the fear-based notions that have been so insidiously and surreptitiously promoted by a select few humans (read The Lucifer Principle). Humans, because of this, often fear the unknown as something threatening instead of being open to exploring new frontiers in love, the ‘free’ energy that permeates the space between each proton, electron and neutron in the atoms and molecules that make up our physical world.
According to many, I am a hybrid and am known as the son of Ashtar and Athena as well. Yes, that has to do with the Ashtar Command. It is not by any of my doing personally. As a matter of fact, I’ve been reluctant to accept it and resistant to the notion for decades. Still, it persists and after putting it on the chopping block and whacking away at it for nearly 30 years, I’m beginning to consider it deeper. It certainly would explain why I’ve had so much contact and even found myself facilitating a meeting of hundreds of lifeforms in February of 2001 on board the New Jerusalem, themed with ‘First Contact.’ I cannot deny the experience, nor was it any kind of confabulation no matter how incredulous it sounds.
Regardless of experience or perception of others I’ve lived my life in a way that I am able to garner understanding of how people, places and things work together better (a possibilities coagulator) as well as develop a professional background of demonstrating it. I’ve been in a number of industries, facilitating projects with various missions and visions. One of the latest was as a facilitator for the F-35 Operations and Training Facility at Luke AFB, bringing the stakeholders of the project together in a ‘partnering’ workshop at the Naval Training Center at Luke AFB.
Ron James has some real momentum and poignant points to consider. I Am so thankful for the opportunity to be interviewed on his show, Bigger Questions, that has such great interviews of world-servers and contemporary change-agents…. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzZRLz5z92lMM8GLDf8RHi0GfcL8f1uqq
I don’t know when the post-production of my interview will be done. I can only hope I measure up even slightly to the previous guests. Previous guests include iRobot Founder Colin Angle, Author/Futurist Elliot Maynard, Millennium Project’s Jerome Glen, Dr. Masaru Emoto and Gregg Braden. Apparently I’ve done my homework well. 🙂 I’m continuing, too, with an MIT course through U.Lab: Transforming Business, Society and Self and I’d encourage anyone to take it. They are taking this basic understanding of collaborative conversation to a new level.
So, perhaps what I’ve shared has given you a different perspective to ponder for a bit. I don’t expect you to believe a thing. What I hope is that you begin to test these possibilities, ask better or different questions than previously and observe what unfolds in front of you. If you are reading this, you already have a sense beyond most human understanding, so why not let that sense (or senses) continue to evolve and discover what is about to unfold with a little deeper level of faith, love and trust. It is okay to be skeptical, even to rip it up through all kinds of tests you may know or discover along the way. Eventually, you’ll be presented with the question of whether to accept what you’ve found and enjoy a new living awareness.. or not.
As one author, perhaps better known as Zendor the Contrarian, I’ve been keeping up with the rest of the Ufology crowd for decades, observing the many splendor-ed things reported across the gamut of the topic. I’m most interested in the engagement of what Dr. Joseph Burkes calls TOTENCET, the communication of ‘them’ with ‘us’ in oh, so many ways. I posit that the direct experiences, the physical contact, is anomalous because the vibratory rates of the TOTENCET are so far beyond ours that it produces a fight or flight syndrome within the experiencer, not necessarily intended but nevertheless present. It is much more effective to conduct remote access (conscious, dream state, etc) because our minds are at least a little more receptive.
To be present and fully conscious, without mental perturbations, is nearly impossible for most human beings unless they’ve had continual contact for some time, imho, effectively desensitizing or at least getting used to the contrast in vibratory experience… the place of LOVE within us beyond any fear. There is a certain sense, almost one of ‘dropping in’ to a state of consciousness that has been referred to as ‘the silence within’ for millennia. Few attain access to this place because of the tendency for the mind to engage thoughts in rapid-fire and nearly uncontrollable fashion. Still, for those experiencers who’ve reached this place, my words only edify their understanding and, perhaps, their knowing of the beneficent beings who reside there. They are no threat to us… none. Most often they invite us to share in that space of ‘love’ (for lack of a better term) that is almost effervescent or iridescent in our sensory capacity.
In time I believe this will become common; making sense common is a goal we share. I’ve found that there are some rough psycho-spiritual technologies available to explore and, although I don’t have a production studio, I’ve managed to put a couple of them together as they just seem to mirror each other and would work well together…
Trusting relationships are absolutely important, but we often hold back in some way and diminish the capacity of full engagement. It’s like the whole eye of the needle thing in what Marcus is talking about, we have to release everything – especially our attachment to being alive. Sacred journeys and near-death experiences also present these opportunities.
The release of the physical presents new living awareness in the realization that there truly is no death. It is a new level of trust we attain. Consciousness, TOTENCET and formless intelligence all have an open door for us to enter – contact is imminent in that place. Our physical reality, according to science now, has more space than matter. The consciousness that permeates space/time advances our capacity to condense into form, but when we do we have to relearn that we are formless in essence.
That is what the various types of progressive spiritual experiences provide. I take it back to the notion of faith, love and trust. When we have it fully engaged within us, a decided choice indeed, then we automatically open our consciousness to those moments of serendipitous synchronicity; non-linear and non-local events we experience in the physical world simultaneously. Our consciousness flows effortlessly. Our mind has a hard time keeping up because of our belief systems or lack of experience to date. To this end we seek assurance, corroboration and validation of the high strangeness in our lives.
Many years ago the gentleman on the far left in photo, Jim Dilettoso, along with Ret. Col. Wendelle Stevens (RIP) organized the first International UFO Congress in Tucson, AZ. I was quite fortunate to have been able to be there, arriving in a limousine owned by a mutual friend, Roy Haddix (RIP), along with the future mother of Jim’s awesome daughter.. now a teenager. Some really amazing things have happened over the years.
The event today brings people from all over the world. Mine is a personal experience of connecting with others and sharing what we’ve found in our personal direct experiences and relationships forged from internal and external perspectives, something that is not particularly shared on stage by the presenters. Most of that information is perhaps more linear and, quite honestly, polarized in one perspective or another. Below is a series of interviews I did at an event in Sedona in 1992, which includes Jim Dilettoso and others. It’s a veritable synopsis of what is and has been going on for decades.
This year was probably the most profound shift I’ve noticed in the willingness of people to share openly, mostly patrons rather than actual presenters. The shift has been in their ability to question and the willingness to see things from an inner perspective, free of polarization. This demonstrates the growth in awareness and consciousness among the collective of experiencers. The morning and evening gatherings of experiencers in a facilitated session by Yvonne Smith brought out the fact that many are still grappling with the intense juxtaposition of fear and freedom in experiencing non-linear and non-local events of their own.
Rey Hernandez, Rev Zen, Richard Dolan
There is a new organization called FREE (Foundation for Research of Extraterrestrial Encounters) that has taken the environment to a new level of investigation. Rey Hernandez and I shared a table during the event and got to know each other well, another unexpected joy for me particularly. FREE’s work, began by folks like John Mack (RIP) some years ago, is bring an opportunity for contactees to share their experiences and study the commonality. Academic studies of the phenomena of long been plagued by the reluctance of the scientific community to explore.
Today, the work of FREE is forging a new path in the acceptance and corroboration of a common theme in the awareness of experiencers, that of a congruent understanding of the helpfulness garnered toward the actualization of an openness toward our Star Families, revealing the potential of many who have found their lives to be integrated with a massive movement toward evolving consciousness. Dr. Edgar Mitchell and Dr. Rudy Schild are co-founders of FREE. Dr. Mitchell and I had conversations about this possibility when we met at the Prophets Conference in Phoenix in 1997.
The common perception among nearly all the folks I was able to meet and speak with for any length of time over the 5-day event was that we are learning how to move beyond our internal fears prompted by the induction of various philosophies and religions, Travis’ recent shift is one of the most notable. Of course there are those who still seek to polarize the public for personal and profitable reasons. The great thing is that the discussion of personal discernment is growing and the suspension of old, worn out belief systems is occurring throughout this environment. Some folks are still gullible and want to believe what they are hearing from these proponents of polarity. Indeed the conduit is closing, though, as the seekers of truth are reflecting their awareness more openly.
Perhaps there is a desire for harmony among people and planet, promoted by the majority of contactees, that is encouraging those who’ve felt like they were ‘abducted’ to look at their experience from a larger view, one of an expanded consciousness that is being offered by our extraterrestrial neighbors. The natural process of chaos to order is certainly being recognized.