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Why Might UFOs Be Important?

Dr. Joe Burkes posted an article recently, asking the question: WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT UFOs ARE IMPORTANT? I was moved by his post. In particular and with great respect for his work, I’d like to share some thoughts sparked by a comment that stood out for me.

“For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing.”

I think that statement is tantamount to the trials and tribulations of selfish human-centric behaviors. How do we really resolve those insurmountable problems? Humans are selfish still. Compassionately devoted living is far from ubiquitous, let alone common.

We treat the phenomena just like we treat the insurmountable problems – with curiosity initially, perhaps even with some passion. Then, bereft of the ability to ask the right questions or take the right actions, i.e. changing behaviors and/or habits, not much happens. Doesn’t expanded awareness and consciousness naturally lead us to those questions?

How would those actions look? What could or do we observe as evidence? What lens(es) are we looking through? How do our experiences, messages, understanding or wisdom apply as a contribution to, as the good Swami calls it, the global ‘upwising,’? Can we take our eyes off the stars and focus on bettering each other’s lives down here?

Do we really need to be distracted by disclosure? Or, are we applying the same bullying tactics as those we abhor? That paste [presence of ET/NHIB (non-human intelligent being)] has been out of the tube for decades in reality, yet we don’t consider it ‘official’ until political leaders acknowledge it.

It seems the truth is, other than a niche market/population, nobody seems to care all that much. It seems to be nothing more than humorous cliches or innuendos outside the ufology community. It’s a lot of work to change that behavior. We tend to rock too many boats. How do we rise the tide more effectively?

Imho, and it may be only mine, if we truly pay attention to the communication we’ve (contactees) received and understand it, it isn’t about the technological advances or ET solving our problems – just the opposite is true. That fact has been obfuscated in all the ufology gatherings which tends to distract rather than focus attention on practical goals.

The message I believe we, as experiencers, can agree on is that the human race is evolving to solve their own problems through and with indirect intervention via our ‘individual events.’ Learning how to glean the wisdom, presented from different perspectives, is a primary ‘lesson’ taught by NHIB. It’s consistent with all the other terrestrial messages that resonate with our being; our mind, heart and spirit.

From what I garner, that is the way it is done across the universe. Is it true? That is the core of the communication I and countless others have received for decades. Is there a conversation about it that makes it practical in our everyday lives? I see hints of it.

It’s my understanding that once we reach a certain stage of performance, evidence that we ‘got the memo,’ then more open contact is available. The human threat has been transformed. Right now, the barbaric overlords (another term for the human threat) of our planetary administration are bereft of solutions.

Hopefully, the people are taking up the call. Like many I’m sure, it’s overwhelming to me, still in the work-a-day world with only so much time. Still, we have to work within the systems, not necessarily with the same tools that built them, in order to facilitate the kind of change we all feel is possible.

Consciousness (our own or NHIB) can only facilitate so much. Getting our heads around that, a kind of competent cooperative consciousness, is a challenge to grok on an individual basis, let alone finding things to do collaboratively. Maybe it is the hope of help and the faith in the human race that the UFO reality is best suited to promote. We already know they respond to that kind of attention in open conversations, right?

Here’s a conversation with Dr. Jeffery Mishlove that might assist… – On Hearing Voices.

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CONTACT NETWORK HISTORY PROJECT

CONTACT NETWORK HISTORY PROJECT

A Close Encounter of the Third Kind with Love.

Joseph Burkes MD 2015

It has been said that consciousness is the “golden thread” that ties us to UFO intelligence. After all if the ET hypothesis is correct and UFOs are an extraterrestrial manifestation, then we are going to be very different from them. We don’t share a common history, language or biological evolution, but what both humans and ETs have in common is that we are awake and are aware of that wakefulness.

Perhaps we can share states of being that come from that clear quiet place that we call consciousness itself. For those of us who have met the visitors face to face, there exists the possibility of sharing a sense of peace or joy. Although it may sound corny, as this narrative suggests we may also be able to communicate with, and share love.

“COMING OUT” OF THE UFO CLOSET

My initial enthusiastic support for CSETI ‘s contact efforts led me to a rather daring action. Some would call it foolish. I decided to set up a CSETI information booth at the American Public Health Association’s annual meeting held in Washington DC in November of 1992. I was accompanied by my medical group partner “Dr. Daniel.” He was in our Los Angeles CSETI CE-5 Initiative Working Group.

The APHA’s meeting draws about 10,000 health professionals whose political views are more to the left than mainstream medicine’s views. The APHA has historically championed the health rights of women, ethic minorities and workers. During the first few years of my medical career I had actively participated in the Occupational Health and Safety section of the APHA. In 1979 I was co-founder of the Los Angeles Committee on Occupational Safety and Health, a coalition of health care and legal professionals that endeavored through education and advocacy to make the workplace safer.

WORKING THE CROWD

At a beautiful new convention center in the nation’s capital, under a royal blue banner embroidered with the slogan, “ One Universe, One People!” Daniel and I “worked” the conference participants. A small TV monitor played dramatic footage of UFOs, while I called out to passersby, “Would you like to see a UFO video?” Apparently quite a few did, over 250 nurses, doctors and administrators watched the film clips and chatted with us during the 3-day conference. About forty signed up for more information and the bravest shared their personal stories of sightings and other contact experiences.

A CLOSE ENCOUNTER OF THE THIRD KIND WITH LOVE

A Ph.D. professor of nursing gave the most impressive report to me. From her convention badge I identified her as a faculty member from a major university. She watched the videos for a few minutes and then allowed me to interview her about her personal contact experience.

Some 7 years before she reportedly had a Close Encounter of the Third Kind. After nightfall while camping with her fiancée, her tent was filled with a very bright light. All around the campsite she could hear footsteps. Apparently from prior encounters she immediately realized that she was having a contact experience. The professor reported not being able to move but was fully awake. She could not stir her friend that was sound asleep. One humanoid stuck his head into the tent. By her description the being was the typical so called “Gray,” big head with wrap around eyes. My nursing colleague told me that she was happily excited and frightened at the same time.

The being quickly retreated but she could see his shadow and those of several others on the walls of her tent that was illuminated by the campfire light. She told me that she sent out the thought, “ I love you.” In a flash she felt a forceful burst of electric type energy. The sensation surged through her body from the top of her head down to the tip of her toes. The beings left her campsite and the encounter was over.

There are on the exhibit floor, under the bright lights with hundreds of booths and thousands of participants around us, she had described the experience simply, matter of fact, with just a touch of amazement. I was a perfect stranger to her and yet she was willing to share her recollections of an intimate contact with what she believed were non-human beings. I described to her the ambitious goals of CSETI’s CE-5 Initiative. She listened politely but chose not to sign up for more information. After all she was a professor at a major university and the notoriety of being a contact experiencer might cause her considerable harm. She wished me well in my crusade and walked away, disappearing into the crowd.

About the author: Joseph Burkes MD volunteered as a Working Group Coordinator for the CE-5 Initiative from 1992 to 1998. He has continued to study the flying saucer phenomenon working with MUFON and the Peruvian contact network now called Rahma. He is co-author of the book “Paths to Contact” edited by Jeff Becker. Dr Burkes retired from the Southern California Permanente Medical Group after thirty years service in 2008. He is a board certified internal medicine physician and is licensed to practice in California.

Compatible History

and response from the curator….

Dr. Burkes knows far too well that the consciousness we call ET is so connected to what we also call ‘unconditional love’ that it seems surreptitious that others would engage in fear-based conspiracy theories, imho. The frequency response of such deep levels of love can initially feel so intense that they indeed are a bit frightening; the unfamiliar sense of being totally and unconditionally ‘loved’ by high-frequency beings.

We ‘see’ them in many ways, from humanoid-looking (most appeasing) to reptilian (most challenging) and even non-bipedal creatures as well. It’s been said that we/they present themselves according to the viewer’s capacity or willingness to see. A lot of the current focus, though, is still on the lower vibratory realms, the research on encounters, sightings and such. Bridging the professional realms, like Joe did with the APHA, is critical and I believe mandatory today.

International Association for Near Death Studies

I had the opportunity to do the same a few years ago, with the International Association for Near-Death Studies. I applied for a presentation spot at their 2010 annual conference in Denver and got the nod, unexpectedly. After some scheduling rearrangements (initially having an hour, then a half-hour, then being put on a panel with two others and given 20 minutes as I stepped on stage) I felt a little uncomfortable with such demands that I felt were a bit unprofessional. Still, I was there and on stage.

I had a feeling things were going to go awry, so I didn’t put my powerpoint together until during the speaker just before us. It turned out to be perfectly timed… I came in just over the 20 minutes they allotted. During my presentation to the clinicians and medical professionals I introduced the notion of how the OBE’s, NDEs and STEs were all related and easily lended themselves to accessing what we call ETs and more, including cosmic consciousness.

I noticed some shades drawn with some of the audience but one individual in particular who was a long standing expert in the field, P.M. Atwater, was smiling from ear to ear and nodding continuously as I broached the delicate bridge. I knew I was going to hedge the edge of acceptability with this particular crowd, yet afterward there were several who congratulated me on bridging those worlds. No one to date had attempted to do so at the IANDS annual events.

Btw, I wasn’t invited back, either. 🙁 Still, the information was shared. Having multiple close encounters throughout my life has been both a blessing and a curse. I’m blessed with a greater understanding of the ‘non-humans;’ their perspective on universal law and order. I’m cursed with the misunderstanding and projections of others who are unable to hear from within.

Keep up the great work, Joe!

Here’s the video if anyone is interested…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlvkmP3eZkE

Dr. Burkes and I had a great conversation a couple of months ago on Inception Radio, too… https://youtu.be/ozQ-HH4jXGU

2015 IUFOC – from a patron

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Jim Dilettoso, Zen, Liz Alpert, Clifford Mahooty

A moment in time…

Many years ago the gentleman on the far left in photo, Jim Dilettoso, along with Ret. Col. Wendelle Stevens (RIP) organized the first International UFO Congress in Tucson, AZ. I was quite fortunate to have been able to be there, arriving in a limousine owned by a mutual friend, Roy Haddix (RIP), along with the future mother of Jim’s awesome daughter.. now a teenager. Some really amazing things have happened over the years.

The event today brings people from all over the world. Mine is a personal experience of connecting with others and sharing what we’ve found in our personal direct experiences and relationships forged from internal and external perspectives, something that is not particularly shared on stage by the presenters. Most of that information is perhaps more linear and, quite honestly, polarized in one perspective or another. Below is a series of interviews I did at an event in Sedona in 1992, which includes Jim Dilettoso and others. It’s a veritable synopsis of what is and has been going on for decades.

This year was probably the most profound shift I’ve noticed in the willingness of people to share openly, mostly patrons rather than actual presenters. The shift has been in their ability to question and the willingness to see things from an inner perspective, free of polarization. This demonstrates the growth in awareness and consciousness among the collective of experiencers. The morning and evening gatherings of experiencers in a facilitated session by Yvonne Smith brought out the fact that many are still grappling with the intense juxtaposition of fear and freedom in experiencing non-linear and non-local events of their own.

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Rey Hernandez, Rev Zen, Richard Dolan

There is a new organization called FREE (Foundation for Research of Extraterrestrial Encounters) that has taken the environment to a new level of investigation. Rey Hernandez and I shared a table during the event and got to know each other well, another unexpected joy for me particularly. FREE’s work, began by folks like John Mack (RIP) some years ago, is bring an opportunity for contactees to share their experiences and study the commonality. Academic studies of the phenomena of long been plagued by the reluctance of the scientific community to explore.

Today, the work of FREE is forging a new path in the acceptance and corroboration of a common theme in the awareness of experiencers, that of a congruent understanding of the helpfulness garnered toward the actualization of an openness toward our Star Families, revealing the potential of many who have found their lives to be integrated with a massive movement toward evolving consciousness. Dr. Edgar Mitchell and Dr. Rudy Schild are co-founders of FREE. Dr. Mitchell and I had conversations about this possibility when we met at the Prophets Conference in Phoenix in 1997.

Travis-ZenThe common perception among nearly all the folks I was able to meet and speak with for any length of time over the 5-day event was that we are learning how to move beyond our internal fears prompted by the induction of various philosophies and religions, Travis’ recent shift is one of the most notable. Of course there are those who still seek to polarize the public for personal and profitable reasons. The great thing is that the discussion of personal discernment is growing and the suspension of old, worn out belief systems is occurring throughout this environment. Some folks are still gullible and want to believe what they are hearing from these proponents of polarity. Indeed the conduit is closing, though, as the seekers of truth are reflecting their awareness more openly.

Perhaps there is a desire for harmony among people and planet, promoted by the majority of contactees, that is encouraging those who’ve felt like they were ‘abducted’ to look at their experience from a larger view, one of an expanded consciousness that is being offered by our extraterrestrial neighbors. The natural process of chaos to order is certainly being recognized.

Contact in the Desert

Your Chance to Win Tickets!

Now in its third year amidst the desert background in the Joshua Tree area, Contact in the Desert is moving the the end of May. Patrons are getting their wish as the previous August dates, even with the Perseid meteor showers, was challenging to heat-sensitive folks. It’s a beautiful venue, though.

Contact in the Desert New Dates

Joshua Tree Retreat Center is the oldest and largest retreat center in the Western United States; a unique architectural landmark on a sacred site. Their mission is to support the education and nourishment of the infinite human potential. The atmosphere is certainly conducive, especially with the new dates for the 2015 Contact in the Desert event.

You can enter to win two free passes for the weekend, too. Click on this link. It’s time sensitive. Make sure you look up our Curator, Zen Benefiel, at the event. He’ll be staying in the Rose Cottage and will undoubtedly be hosting some great after-hours discussions. Keep your eyes and the skies and your head in the silence within… that’s where you’ll find the most interesting conversations.

Legends from the Sky

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Promo Description: A Native American Veteran, burdened by survivor’s guilt after a disastrous military tour, is forced to search for his missing grandfather after his ancestral land is mysteriously taken over by an unknown federal organization.

The movie had its World Debut at the Gila River Wild Horse Pass Casino in the Ovations Room just last night. The director, Travis Holt Hamilton, and most of the cast were on hand for the event. I spoke with Travis briefly beforehand and his unpretentious demeanor was refreshing. He is a hard-working and dedicated professional who decided to explore something few have done, combining a respect for indigenous ways while exploring a topic that is as confusing as it is rife with disinformation today.

The movie itself was well written and directed; the production staff should be proud of such anLegends accomplishment as well. There were only minor drags in the dialog from time to time. Seriously, though, how do you really bridge the worlds of experiencers and ‘normal’ folk in any culture? Have you ever tried to write a movie script or screenplay. It is certainly not easy. Travis and Jose Silerio deserve some great respect for venturing into the Ufology territory, let alone wrapping it into a Native American culture and landscape.

I’d highly recommend checking out this film and let your imagination run as to how it relates to the current them in this century and the role the indigenous folk play in it. Perhaps there are some symbols and people who represent them that are ready to appear. Who knows, Travis may take this film to another level in a sequel that takes one deeper into Native culture with a little sci-fi spin. This film would certainly lend itself to another venture. The screening schedule is below the trailer that is resident on YouTube that follows.

Screening Schedule:

30 Jan – 5 Feb 2015:  Denver, CO – Harkins Northfield 18 (8300 E. Northfield Blvd, Denver, CO 80238 – 720.374.3118)

30 Jan – 5 Feb 2015:  Durango, CO – Durango Stadium 9 (900 Translux Drive, Durango, CO 81303 – 970.247.9799)

30 Jan – 5 Feb 2015:  Farmington, NM – Allen 8 (1819 20th Street, Farmington, NM 87401 – 505.326.0000)

30 Jan – 5 Feb 2015:  Gallup, NM – Aztec 5 (911 West Aztec, Gallup, NM 87301 – 505.863.4651)

30 Jan – 5 Feb 2015:  Oklahoma City, OK – Harkins Bricktown 16 (150 E. Reno Ave, Oklahoma City, OK 73104 – 405.231.4747)

30 Jan – 5 Feb 2015:  Tempe, AZ – Harkins Arizona Mills (5000 Arizona Mills Cir., Tempe, AZ 85282 – 480.820.0387)

30 Jan – 5 Feb 2015:  Tucson, AZ – Harkins Spectrum 18 (5455 S. Calle Santa Cruz, Tucson, AZ 85706 – 520.889.5588)

Please visit their other Legend sites:

Facebook  ~  Twitter  ~  IMDB  ~  Official Trailer

Maybe we can encourage Travis to take another step toward Native culture and include the Hopi in his next film. There is a well-known rock formation that they call the ‘landing place’ where thousands of ancient petroglyphs line the rock face just outside the area. They, too, have their legends of ‘star people’ that are worth investigating further. If you ever want to go there yourself, reach out to the curator. You’ll need a referral to get a Hopi guide to take you there. Outsiders aren’t welcome without one.