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Kosta Makreas – Founder, ET Let’s Talk & The People’s Disclosure Movement

Kosta Makreas – Founder, ET Let’s Talk & The People’s Disclosure Movement

interviewed by your curator, Zen Benefiel for One World in a New World

And now for something completely different… with an invitation to engage Star Family visitors further through ET Let’s Talk.

We’ve been diving deep into the lives of those in the trenches in business, organizational development and systems transformation in a variety of ways. This conversation moves to a whole different world of experience, invitation and planetary advancement.

Kosta Makreas brings a new dimension to the conversations, perhaps in some ways apocalyptic to our audience, from having a professional career in software engineering to interacting with Star People. ET Let’s Talk is a collection of people from around the world, some hosting CE-5 events, that gather for the specific purpose of human initiated contact.

As two Hoosiers reuniting, we launch into some familiar territory for us. Both of us have been active in Ufology for decades, though Kosta has taken a front seat, so to speak, with his efforts to build, organize and support a vast network of folks who want to make contact with Star People, which is their preferred nomenclature according to Kosta.

What may seem odd or peculiar or even scary to some has been lifelong experiences for others. Kosta shares how his interest began as a youth and the challenges he faced growing up in a period when it wasn’t too popular to talk about engaging aliens, let alone calling them Star People. His shares a synchronistic experience his wife had while he was away on a CE-5 week-long campout.

If you haven’t heard the term, CE-5 refers to human initiated contact with Star People. Kosta’s work began with Steven Greer and quickly evolved to developing contact groups around the world on his own. ET Let’s Talk and The People’s Disclosure Movement has been growing for several years now.

Our chat moves into discussing the People’s Disclosure Movement, taking the notion of disclosure and putting it in the hands of the people instead of governments that have not been able to announce their knowledge.

Research and study is always necessary, and Kosta mentions a study that includes over 4,000 accounts from around the world. It was performed by an organization called FREE, under the title of Beyond UFOs – The Science of Consciousness and Contact with Non Human Intelligence.

We discuss Kosta’s work with ET Let’s Talk (https://etletstalk.com) and the numbers of people involved. You might be surprise, though perhaps not.

If your curiosity is sparked, you’ll enjoy the conversation for sure. We only scratch the surface of the work and how it affects those involved. For decades it wasn’t popular to speak up or out about this topic and now folks seem to be flocking toward their own discovery and engagement.


Make sure to check out the description below the video for more information and links.

Challenges of Experience and Inquiry with UFOs

Background Brief – Challenges 

Challenges of being both an experiencer and behind the scenes researcher over my lifetime, with events I’m challenged with and find hard to believe, yet I was part of it, and so an experience system began replacing beliefs that no longer fit. I write about them and, to date, have never been taken seriously by the ‘experts’ in ufology.

I totally get why folks remain aloof and apart from the madding crowd. It’s often disappointing and discouraging to witness the inability of folks to be open-minded or advance their own intelligence base. There’s a new living awareness available to those who emerge fearlessly from the challenges of fallacious narratives.

Most of my life (40+ years) I’ve been an outlier because of my experience and willingness to be vulnerable enough to share. Risking revealing a life of integrative activity still brings concern, yet if I don’t then I’m not walking my talk and am no use to anyone. With a robust professional career and successful transformational coaching practice I have to be an example of what I hope to inspire in clients and personal relationships – a new view of quantum entanglement.

I’ve been blessed to have some conversations that matter with others over the years, perhaps offering some corroboration and/or inspiration and guidance for others on the path who are struggling with the notion of being a co-creator in the process of the great awakening we’re experiencing at this time. We’ve been anticipating it, though participation in practical and pragmatic ways has been somewhat illusive. Articulating the understanding has been a challenge, though I’ve had a lot of fun developing it. Here’s a sampling: UfologyPress.com/curator-interviews if interested.

Challenges… And then there are others

jim diletosso, zen benefielOthers have intimate encounters, conversations about the nature of the ‘people from elsewhere’ and their reasons for making a larger showing of UAP events. They aren’t to create military concern as they are no threat. Their messages are about the care and concern for humanity and our Mother Earth. Our level of thinking cannot fathom such advanced races that are aware and engage universal laws (physics we do not understand).

It’s been a challenge in the experience addressing hoaxers that seem to be of two categories – disinformation and attention seekers. Because of our lack of critical thinking skills, these folks run amuck and distract the gullible and naïve who are simply afraid of anything they cannot explain or want to believe in sci-fi fantasy beyond any technology we actually have to date. I’ve experienced bi-location and teleportation so I know they are possible, yet they are driven by psycho-spiritual technology, not material technology as some report.

The folks at Village Labs in Tempe, AZ, Jim Diletosso and Michael Tanner (RIP), held interviews with the witnesses of the Phoenix Lights in 1997. Lynne Kitei used many of those witnesses for her film. The challenges of Francis Emma Barwood, who pushed the investigation with the City of Phoenix and Fife Symington, I sure were daunting. She had been a guest on my show prior to the event and remained at least an acquaintance, if not friend over the years. We heard dozens of accounts of the event, revealing not one, two craft that had made their way down from the north along I-17 and Scottsdale Road. The second one never gets mentioned.

I’d known Jim for almost a decade prior and, available and curious as I was, I spent a lot of time at Village Labs. Jim was also a go-to-guy for photo and video analysis and had appeared on TV shows. I got to know a lot of folks from around the world as a result. Some seemed legit while others seemed more interested in fame and fortune. Tim Beckley held the New Age and Alien Agenda expos in the early 90s in Phoenix, which brought folks like Darrel Sims, who I had some heated conversations with because of his position on abductions.

Jim recommended me to the Axiom Group (promoters) as the event manager for the Prophets Conference, which gave me the opportunity to have even more conversations with those supposedly in the know. Challenges for logistical needs were few, as I had contacts from other events. One such opportunity with Dr. Edgar Mitchell involved several conversations about our shared interest and life events. He confided in me about their encounter with a metallic silver cylinder spiraling around the LEM on the descent to the surface of the Moon. He also asked me not to share it until after his death, for obvious reasons, and I kept my promise.

Pyramidal Pundits Proffering Proof

One of the newcomers who co-founded FREE and shared a video as proof that Edgar lent his name to the group, which seemed more like informing him of his intentions and Edgar just acquiescing out of politeness, took a personal stance and called me out as a liar because Edgar had not told him about the event. This same individual had stories of incredulous events he expected everyone to believe, and that he’d had an ‘awakening’ around 2012 that led him to his interest.

I’d made the effort to introduce him to many at his first IUFOC in 2015, informed Jeff Mishlove of FREE during my interview and did a lot of promotion for the organization and got repaid with self-righteous indignation. As if there were some fear of some kind, or perhaps envy, the distance turned into outright dismissal and rejection from the group he formed on Facebook. I find that typical of folks who reveal themselves over time to be less than ethical and perhaps have a moral compass that’s slightly off.

Speaking of Jeff Mishlove and the challenges of Earth, he mentioned one of his cohorts, who communicates with Non-Human Intelligence regularly, that ‘they’ see Earth as a series of pyramidal structures with alpha males at the top vying for dominance over people and planet while competing for territory. Our current situation with the pandemic is yet another example of the fallacious attempts to control populations, only it’s at a global scale now. This, too, shall pass.

I don’t have any investment in being known or having a following or selling books or any of the nonsense that seems to accompany those who want to dominate the field, let alone promote openness toward the subject beyond their passion for disclosure. We know they are there – now what? What’s next? Are we even thinking about it? Seems we cannot think our way through a system built on vibration – even the communication methods are frequency-based, so we need to sense the scene, right?

Challenge: How Can We Emerge?

IMHO, the subject is far beyond sightings and encounters. We generally only take a cursory view, using faulty belief systems as our guide, and never explore the depths of the interdimensional interactions these intelligences and craft exhibit. If I recall some of what I’ve heard about the 1950s events, which Smith validates ‘they’ let governments know they were here, is that appearances and agreements were made initially with world governments. Those agreements were violated across the board… technology turned into weaponry… and so the withdrawal of direct contact and Plan B began… the systematic personal contact agenda and the elevation of consciousness from a grass roots level, so to speak.

I have to say I was pleasantly surprised with Romanek got his well-deserved reward. I’d had several conversations with him, with little eye contact and avoidance of direct questions that would have offered some validation to his experience. I determined then it was all a hoax and his unsuspecting wife got caught in the middle of it. The political correctness and lack of critical questions and conversations seem to hinder our progress as well. Folks who get flustered with critical questions tend to reveal their stories as being concoctions rather than reality. We should love critical thinking questions developed with the intention of sincere inquiry.

Luis spoke of the nature of the military interest in his 60 Minutes interview – “What is it? What is its intentions? What are its capabilities?” Those are great questions, yet they are still at a cursory level, imho, and the real challenges aren’t being addressed. Have interactions for a lifetime, those questions seem like more disinformation. We know what they are, were informed of their intentions back in the 1950s, and have reverse-engineered at least some technology from downed craft so we know some capabilities.

What we don’t know is the level of consciousness they possess and the understanding of how they can manipulate reality so easily. It appears that as one studies and/or practices deep spiritual practices, some of the answers begin to bubble up through experience rather than the intellectual investigation. Our ability to co-create (manipulate reality) emerges as well. It seems preposterous to consider ‘them’ a threat, which fuels that polarity between Elizondo and Greer.

Coming of Age – Challenges of Awareness

We all have the ability of ‘sensing’ and using that ‘sense’ to determine the resonance of virtually any soliloquy or conversational bits of data or even media. Instead of drilling down through the information and why we sense certain things, we dismiss our feelings and acquiesce to some nebulous notions presented by others as being ‘true’ when, in fact, it is not. We hear, “I believe you believe that it is true for you, but I’m not buying it.” Those statements usually come from ignorance and an unwillingness to explore an unknown with the curiosity of a child free of belief systems or preconceptions.

What is obvious to the most casual observer willing to step back and view a larger picture is that the communication from ‘elsewhere’ is nearly identical to the instruction of spiritual development that’s been around for millennia. Makes one wonder where those instructions came from in the first place. Seems the global or universal view is congruent, so the only threat is of belief systems crumbling as we become more aware of the need for harmony with self, others and Nature. It’s a natural evolutionary process for planetary civilizations.

Conversation with God – Is There a ‘Perfected’ Form, Fit and Function?

Coming of Age

I’m not anyone special, though my experience is unique and weird. It started with a voice inside, advanced to trips to an orange cigar-shaped cloud a few years later and culminated in an NDE in college that presented a profound path to follow; it was like a conversation with ‘God,’ beginning with the mention of helping to facilitate a ‘new world order’ in my lifetime. Well, that’s enough to turn folks off right away.

A few years ago I had the opportunity to discuss what that [new world order] really means from my perspective and understanding. I was invited by Dr. Jeffery Mishlove, an honor and 28-year process of completion. I was hosting a new show, One World, back in 1990 and hoped someday I’d be worthy of an interview with one of the icons I hoped to emulate, Bill Moyers or Jeffrey Mishlove.

This has been a focus of my attention for over 40 years, sometimes obsessively so, attempting to correlate my experiences and others across the spectrum in order to understand my own form, fit and function in the world. I haven’t found any conversations with ‘God’ that dives as deep as the journey I’ve been on for most of my life. It’s a crazy one, though I wouldn’t change a thing.

From what I can tell, it isn’t a simulation; it is a collective experience, individuated to the extent of choice and free will, though the ‘holistic system’ (people and planet) is driven by the collective awareness, the planetary consciousness. Right now, obviously, the collective human level is low and it enjoys a fear-based reality for the most part; a dystopian reality of some sort most are afraid is coming to fruition.

Old Paradigms Need Shifting for a New Order to Emerge

Belief and projection aren’t all that different, imho, producing undesirable results around the world today. Most of it is still unconscious participation. It seems we’ve nearly lost our compassion and kindness toward each other from fear of infection, perceived differences and the narrative that’s indoctrinated a huge part of our society through the dominance of corporations and governments.

As with any statistical curve, the standard deviations are likely to apply, resulting in some with growing self-awareness that has led to awareness of a greater reality and some, not so much. Even though conversations about consciousness and non-human intelligence interacting have begun, we still tend to carry bias, imho, and it gets in the way of open communication. We’re rather attached to our own POV, not realizing it may be the same as another’s only the language is different so it is misunderstood.

Here’s an example:

Wilbert Smith’s book, The New Science, sheds some light on ‘their’ view of things. ‘Their’ meaning people from elsewhere. Apparently we do not understand ‘nothingness’ as a primary factor in the manifestation of everything, and that the materialization has to do with ‘spin’ design (an intelligence beyond our current understanding) that begins in a single point (Iikely of consciousness). In our history, some would have thought his experience was a conversation with God.

The level of interaction across inner and outer realms is astronomical when one considers the conversation with God to include creation itself; if we could only perceive it better. I shared that perspective in a recent video, from an ‘aha’ moment triggered by considering Smith’s information and how it validated some things for me. That is the notion that the point of light referenced above could also contain another aspect we missed. Through experiences of being in the ‘light’ and in the ‘void’ the sensations were nearly identical, individuated yet connected to everything somehow.

I don’t know, though I get the sense that we’re designed to become aware of it all as part of our evolution of consciousness, including the mind/brain interface, for lack of a better. We’ve got the equipment on board, in our brain/body/spirit/soul complex (from RA material model), and perhaps it is a matter of where we are looking to or from; dismantling with intellect or assembling through experience and observation, what Lex Neale’s diagram calls the Self-Aware Witness. Pretty cool stuff…

The New Science and Taking Life for a Spin around Self

Shaky Science About Nothing

There is a fascinating book, The New Science, which is the memoirs of Wilbert Smith. Smith ran Canada’s UFO investigation program, Project Magnet, in the 1950s. The material was discovered and published after his death in 1962. It’s groundbreaking still, with references to conversations with ‘people from elsewhere.’

I’m not an astrophysicist, but the idea of a ‘nothingness’ like Smith speaks of resembles the notion of the Void… from which all things come, or so we believe. This idea of nothingness is surely not understood because we really don’t have the language to describe it, yet if there are repeating patterns, fractals, in creation perhaps this is one that requires a spin around Self.

The entrance and exit within the door to the void within us, inside the tiny point of light of our soul consciousness, may reflect this same notion on a much smaller scale. We’re sorely lacking in our understanding of physics already, developing equations to account for anomalies instead of seeing the universe as anomaly-free and equating it.

We interpret the light from stars with our existing understanding, which may not be so understanding of the myriad of life forms and their location. We think we have ‘something’ and no longer question its validity, yet Smith notes that ‘people from elsewhere’ have a much different understanding of the nature of creation, and ours is in at least slight error.

Given that spin around self, and the assumption that Smith wasn’t fibbing, our questions for discovery may not have developed enough yet to fully comprehend what those structures we think are black holes really are and how they function. Seeing things at a distance makes it almost impossible to fully grok, imho. What is up close now?

Are you aware that you are aware of your awareness at any given moment? Are you able to observe yourself deeply, question your behaviors, beliefs and bewilderment of them at times? Do you have moments of reflection that seem to evade the notion of time?

There’s been more than one time I’ve been sucked into some kind of ‘tube’ that feels like a conduit of travel. It began with out-of-body experiences as a youth, then progressed to traveling elsewhere, though I never really knew where. There was a sense of movement, though.

I don’t know if it is inner space, outer space or a combination. The difference is having my eyes closed as I explored, initially believing it to be my imagination. It would seem that, all things functioning as ONE, that the combination is probably true. Experiencers (those explores of non-human contact), at some point, seem to corroborate such ‘trips,’ although descriptions are slightly different.

I agree that the form doesn’t have much to do with it, and yet consciousness needs to have some form of manifestation for interaction to take place. I was shown as a teen that our point of light (the anchor of life within us) can give access to infinite intelligence. For some time we’ve been experiencing a variety of mechanisms and styles of contact, not to mention various life forms. As this process continues, perhaps we realize we missed the idea of ‘nothing’ that is the foundation of everything.

Pick Up the Phone, Please!

We receive communication in ways we can understand it, for the most part, and it’s usually subjective and unique to the individual; a real spin around Self. I still think there are patterns we’re not seeing yet. Perhaps we weren’t ready to until recently where the spike in awareness, or the culmination of the calendars indicating an evolutionary leap is about ready to take place, has us at least looking for something more.

Perhaps there is a primer, an igniter, that unlocks our understanding and increases our ability to manifest appropriately from our nature instead of our intellect and science. The latter will catch up in time. We’ve spent most of our time in destructive testing to figure out the makings of the universe. What about constructive testing, inquiry into the natural state as it is, not what we believe it to be. Many relate that is the first step; to just BE… empty with inquiry.

I’ll use the Urantia Book as a reference that at least offers the notion of considering a plethora of types of beings and responsibilities in universe administration. The book is esoteric, compiled and presented by an intelligence or collection of intelligences in an effort to share a greater reality. Like everything ‘from elsewhere,’ out tendency is to attempt to fit the data/information into models we’re familiar.

Neppe and Close, with their Quantum Theory of Everything (Triadic Dimensional-Distinction Vortical Paradigm)  say that consciousness, time and space are tethered across 9 dimensions. Smith says the ‘people from elsewhere’ relate that the tempic, magnetic and electric fields in the Quadrature Concept span 12 dimensions, all in the spin around Self, a point of observation.

It seems consciousness is capable of experiencing all the above and the bridge between body/mind/spirit/soul is just now appearing. Or perhaps it’s been there all along and we’re just now able to conceive of it, explore it and ruminate without the fear of persecution or rejection. It’s obvious we need to evolve toward something better, something greater, for humanity.

What’s it all mean for us in a practical sense? I’m not sure, though I get the sense ‘we/they’ are trying to get us to understand that from ‘nothing’ everything emerged in perfect order; there is an order to nature and the cosmos we haven’t understood as natural order, which indicates a natural order in human experience and understanding as well.

We approach it from destructive testing, like CERN, where perhaps an approach from another direction is more appropriate; a simple change in perception that includes consciousness in the equation. I think we’re off to a good start, a silver lining in the Great Reset, perhaps a Great Weset instead, with an upwising in our wise-cracking and scoffing at things we don’t understand.

Coming out of an ‘old’ normal and transforming into a ‘new’ normal might include a deeper check-in. The obsession on self-hygiene and sequestration opened the door to explore self (our persona) and Self (our Being) in perspective. Ponder your future well in your new spin around Self. Ponder the twist on the pronoun craze going on now and consider these… I Am / We Are.

Bigger Questions w Ron James and Zen Benefiel

Time Dilation?

The timing of our efforts and expectation of results don’t necessarily coincide with the intentions and process of unfolding information. Gaps happen, right? Non-linear and non-local activity have to be taken into consideration now. Timelines aren’t our own. The interview at the end of this article was recorded in 2015 for Bigger Questions. I drove to LA with the excitement of sharing some long-suffering that offered a new world of experience on just about every level you can think, yet it wasn’t time yet.

Seems newcomers to the scene express their passion and purpose with some overblown self-importance that does more to obfuscate the truth and create diminished returns than they realize. Their obsessions cause miscommunication and responses from immaturity and insecurity rather than vulnerability and wisdom, resulting in projections of arrogance and self-righteous behavior that only reveals they are the creators of it. It isn’t their fault. They are young  in the field and inexperienced.

It’s a very small view in the eyes of a bigger questions and a bigger picture; feeling important. Pushing and pulling energy is not ‘the way.’ Personally and professionally I have a piece of advice I give to my clients and cohorts. Do something bigger than you are and share it. Be part of the big picture, not the community market. That’s what my ‘contacts’ are most disturbed by – lack of action, initiative and understanding of why it is necessary as a demonstration of an evolving consciousness.

Fallacious Realities

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Masks in Nature? Really? Oh, it’s a smart virus… it will hunt you down. Scientific research shows masks are ineffective yet the narrative and actions appease our fears of each other????

2020 sure has been an interesting year with many bigger questions; most of them suppressed. Amidst the mud-slinging and name-calling we’ve also been witnesses to how marginalized a global society can be in the face of a fallacious reality narrative that has no other purpose than a global social experiment. Expertise and information, instinct and common sense have been thrown asunder with censorship and removals from the web.

Good and evil are certainly in the discussion of how a few have manipulated the many once again. If one takes the time for discovery and compares what is still available with the narrative being pushed on the world, it’s fallaciousness becomes clearly obvious and present. Don’t believe it can happen? Read The Lucifer Principle.

The question is how do our relationships with each other and our visitors engage practical and pragmatic results? If they don’t, then what good are they, really? Governments have known about them for decades, and there are plenty of cases with proof even before the classified videos were released recently. With how the public has responded to the fallacious narrative, do we think that things would be better if they suddenly showed up? NOT

2020 – A 2112 of Our Own Making

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Dystopian Future?
We think not… music frees the soul. Ignition pending…

We’ve been in our caves for most of 2020, figuring out how to cope, how to navigate, how to survive the economic devastation, and how to come up with the bigger questions that matter. We seek to blame at length yet don’t bother to ask why it is happening in the first place. Is there a group so able to manufacture and control a world gone mad, or use it as an excuse to tighten things up with further personal rights removals?

By 2112, the world is controlled by the “Priests of the Temples of Syrinx”, who determine the content of all reading matter, songs, pictures – every facet of life. A man discovers a guitar and learns to play different music. When he goes to present this to the priests of the Temples, they destroy the guitar. Our instruments are our minds and bodies, and those who discover deeper connections are still seen as threats to society.

We have a choice, though, and we are irrevocably powerful in numbers. Those numbers have to be in agreement with at least simple tenets of progress into the next decade. We’ve got the knowledge, skill sets and talent to make sweeping changes in a very short amount of time – IF – we learn to work together toward a common good.

2021 – A New View with Possibilities and Bigger Questions

We know that compassion and understanding are key features of an evolving consciousness, even with limited experience. We’ve learned how to plagiarize, polarize and punitize our natural desires for community and trust. Our symbolic masks have become exposed and real. The narrative for 2020 has demonstrated just how marginalized and manipulatable a society can be. Let’s not judge them for that, please.

What we need is a compassionate understanding for the condition and perhaps a solution to raise the awareness naturally, without pummeling others with information to try to get them to understand or getting slapped up side of the head with a cosmic 2×4 for our own lack of awareness. How do we do that? Let’s start with the 6 Ps… Patience, Perseverance, Persistence, Passion, Purpose and, most of all, Practice.

The interview below has its own unique high-strangeness. It was lost for several years, never seeing the digital scene, or any other for that matter. Oddly enough, it was found recently though still incomplete in post-production. During the editing, their computer shut down except for my voice, while rendering the final cut. It had to be completely redone. Acknowledging the delay, for whatever reason, our conversation is timely and valuable for entering a new time in a not-so-normal way. Much appreciation to Ron and Skye for their work.

The practical stuff mentioned in the interview, like addressing social crisis, takes a lot of effort regardless of the emotional fortitude. It’s taken nearly four years for the ‘universe’ (and helpful others) to bring to bear the people to forge ahead with WeCanDoBetterArizona.org. I’m so excited and humbled that I get to be a part of it. It’s huge in the impact it will make on youth aging out of foster care in Arizona.

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