Kosta Makreas – Founder, ET Let’s Talk & The People’s Disclosure Movement
interviewed by your curator, Zen Benefiel for One World in a New World
And now for something completely different… with an invitation to engage Star Family visitors further through ET Let’s Talk.
We’ve been diving deep into the lives of those in the trenches in business, organizational development and systems transformation in a variety of ways. This conversation moves to a whole different world of experience, invitation and planetary advancement.
Kosta Makreas brings a new dimension to the conversations, perhaps in some ways apocalyptic to our audience, from having a professional career in software engineering to interacting with Star People. ET Let’s Talk is a collection of people from around the world, some hosting CE-5 events, that gather for the specific purpose of human initiated contact.
As two Hoosiers reuniting, we launch into some familiar territory for us. Both of us have been active in Ufology for decades, though Kosta has taken a front seat, so to speak, with his efforts to build, organize and support a vast network of folks who want to make contact with Star People, which is their preferred nomenclature according to Kosta.
What may seem odd or peculiar or even scary to some has been lifelong experiences for others. Kosta shares how his interest began as a youth and the challenges he faced growing up in a period when it wasn’t too popular to talk about engaging aliens, let alone calling them Star People. His shares a synchronistic experience his wife had while he was away on a CE-5 week-long campout.
If you haven’t heard the term, CE-5 refers to human initiated contact with Star People. Kosta’s work began with Steven Greer and quickly evolved to developing contact groups around the world on his own. ET Let’s Talk and The People’s Disclosure Movement has been growing for several years now.
Our chat moves into discussing the People’s Disclosure Movement, taking the notion of disclosure and putting it in the hands of the people instead of governments that have not been able to announce their knowledge.
Research and study is always necessary, and Kosta mentions a study that includes over 4,000 accounts from around the world. It was performed by an organization called FREE, under the title of Beyond UFOs – The Science of Consciousness and Contact with Non Human Intelligence.
We discuss Kosta’s work with ET Let’s Talk (https://etletstalk.com) and the numbers of people involved. You might be surprise, though perhaps not.
If your curiosity is sparked, you’ll enjoy the conversation for sure. We only scratch the surface of the work and how it affects those involved. For decades it wasn’t popular to speak up or out about this topic and now folks seem to be flocking toward their own discovery and engagement.
Make sure to check out the description below the video for more information and links.
We cannot separate the transcendent activity on Earth now from the admonitions of the communications we’ve been able to decipher from our Star Families. The connections ought to be obvious to even the most resistant observers of this activity between Non-human Intelligence and human beings seeking further connection with what we know to be ‘out there.’ From within, it is indeed a soular revolution.
The essence of a recent post on a social media platform noted the cognitive dissonance in Americans today, feeding the obfuscation of truth and the separation of people in the ‘stay-at-home’ atmosphere. Believing one thing yet practicing another through action that is often in opposition to their belief is a concerted effort toward catastrophe, even if it is unconscious. Let’s get beyond that, shall we?
I will remind us again of the 5 Ps of Life – Patience, Persistence, Perseverance, Passion, and Purpose. People are in places for a reason. If we doubt that, I remind you that they are there, whether we like it or not. We may not like how our judgments come up, but they do. Why? What if the opposite were true, that we have no judgments toward who is where and why? What if we were aware enough to follow the ‘spirit’ of the day and simply do what is in front of us to do?
We shall overcome the divisions as we seek unity of purpose and our freedoms and rights granted by the Constitution – to restore our well-being! We are a spiritually nascent nation at present. We need a soular revolution in America and the world. We all claim to have one, yet we have not let our souls to lead us. Instead we opt for some mental exercise and, ‘Oh, I’ll think about it’ attitude. How is that working?
What if we actually had a REVOLUTION OF SOUL????
We know that the power within us, that is also everywhere else, is stronger than anything ‘in’ the world, right? This isn’t just a spiritual supposition, it’s backed up by quantum physics.
How do we activate that? How do we engage ‘spooky action at a distance’ for the good of all?
Is it possible that a few words would do so? Like, “I love you. Our purpose is Oneness” focusing us on ONE GOAL that truly servers everyone? Most have thought a spiritual path is not for them, that it is too ‘unknown’ or ‘unachievable’ to embark upon or it lacks the visceral experience of the senses to be taken seriously.
Where has that gotten you? I ask you to reconsider the notion that even Einstein, a pretty smart guy who shares the same awe about Energy and Nature, says that can occur as ‘spooky action at a distance.’ To use a familiar term, the ‘Holy Spirit’ permeates that experience and truly guides us as a wise mentor. From all the indications of ‘pure’ conscious contact, it likely is the very same guiding force, by whatever name we choose to call it.
That same wise mentor is your inner voice of conscience, of love for your fellow human beings even with they act out of character or unconsciously. By whatever name you choose to call it EACH OF YOU HAVE IT – IT IS OPERATIONAL – DO NOT DENY IT! More than likely it will lead you to an appropriate action that may feel a little risky at first.
So what do you do? I’ll answer that we have a prerequisite that really needs to happen before the doing. That is getting in touch with your BEing, the connected place within you, that point of light that is part of God that we all have inside of us. One of the activities it led to for me was the development of IndependenceArizona.com and the actions toward establishing it as a viable party in Arizona. No doubt it will be something different for you.
The reconnection with soul is the same for each. It has the same message for each, though the application of that message is individuated with a perfected form, fit and function in this world specifically for these times. Trust your intuition, your gut, the First Brain according to wise men and women of indigenous traditions. Perhaps this article will help with your discernment.
Take a moment and just feel.
Ask yourself about these words and the possibility they are faithful and true to your highest good now. Pause and reflect in your inner truth looking place. BE the Change you wish to see.
I could site the many communiques that experiencers share, either through direct contact or even those that are being ‘channeled’ through various people today. They cannot all be insane or experiencing psychosis. When the same message, or very similar ones, come through a variety of sources, might they have some value?
As we move forward on the path to a Type I Civilization the soular revolution is even more important, and along with more open engagement with our neighbors in the friendly skies, what might we anticipate as admonitions or guidance through these transcendent times. Are we able to ascend in our own being and thinking to embrace a new way of being and thinking? Evidence of the operational capacity of our attention, intention and action has given us more hope, even bolstered the faith, love and trust we have in the ONE.
In the next phase of our movement through this transcendent event, we’ll be faced with choices to honor that which is within us (what connects us all) and/or the option of accepting financial gain or reparations for our troubles during this time with, no doubt, being offered a vaccine and/or membership into a new club that shouldn’t have us as members at all. It’s an option that is being pushed through governments today to ‘save’ us from Covid-19. It’s all a facade.
According to trusted sources we are not in danger of over-population at all. We have more than enough land and resources to sustain us indefinitely. The trouble is, that land and resources are often in the hands of those who would desire control and domination of them for selfish gain. The Profit Over People regime has reached out again for your assistance under the guise of ‘keeping us safe’ when the opposite is true.
As mentioned above, the Soular Revolution (Consciousness Emerging within US) will drive the new paradigm… People and Planet Over Profit. It’s up to us to at least imagine or visualize what that might look like, to consider the possibility and allow our inner truth looking places to do what they were designed to do from the beginning – create a path to harmony for all. Check your sources – ET, NHI, Guides or whatever they are. Inquire of this truth. Lead with Vision.
VALIS (Vast Active Living Intelligence System) was introduced by Philip K. Dick as a science fiction novel. VALIS was a satellite that was part of a network across the galaxy interacting with other intelligent life. It was literally a Vast Active Living Intelligence System designed to target and communicate with certain people. The interaction, much like contact experiences and ETI communications, caused an evolution of consciousness which threatened the status quo. Sounds familiar, huh?
Published in 1981, its affects can be seen throughout the consciousness movement and ufology as well. Dick was known for Blade Runner, Total Recall and The Minority Report among others. His insight and inspiration, much like The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick, provides things all to close to the theme today; aspiring experiencers desiring to learn how to work as one. It makes one wonder just how connected Dick was, so parallel to what many are experiencing as real.
Perhaps the Black Knight might have been his inspiration as well. What is absolutely true is this vast active living intelligence system is a reality within humans and other species. It is another description of the ‘cosmic’ consciousness paradoxically self-directed yet so intricately symbiotic with people, planet and posterity. As we increase the knowledge base, internal and external, the capacity for cognition and collaboration in concert rises.
Vast Active Living Intelligence System of Earth
What ever the communication device, religion or revelation, the consistency across fields of study could be leading us toward an increased capacity for planetary management, too. Why does that make a difference or should we care? What does that have to do with UFOs or their inhabitants; visitors from afar with confusing methods of communication toward humans? They don’t appear to communicate in ways we are accustomed, yet there are volumes of material, direct experiences, where messages are shared an no regression necessary to retrieve.
The excitement over the recent disclosure and discovery being shared with the general public seems anti-climatic, though. It’s a new news cycle for many that haven’t been following the fray and are aware of the dichotomy of experiencer vs researcher in the Ufology community. In the Tao of Ufology, if there were one, the two have distinct yet equal value in moving us all forward. The challenge comes in sifting through the onslaught of information and finding consistent value, something that leads us toward making our own world better and receptive to future engagement of Extraterrestrials in whatever style we can collectively perceive.
Individuals and entities, organizations and others, are often obfuscated by the marauders in the media and within the fray, perhaps well-intentioned at times yet certainly adding to the frustration within the Ufology community and beyond. The added complexity of current environmental and political world affairs not only increases the importance of communication, it requires us to rethink our methodology and purpose for it. We know ‘they’ (various races in yet undetermined alliances and numbers) are indeed here and actively engaging many.
Human Intelligence Systems
The types and styles of engagement vary as well, leaving a certain nebulous notion that we are somehow vulnerable to outside influences or unintended engagement; victims of circumstance. Attempts are being made to access, organize and sift through similarities of experiencers that hopefully will offer some consistent experiences, themes and/or vulnerabilities within our individual and collective belief systems. The information age is leading us toward practical and pragmatic concerns beyond religious or superstitious separative tendencies.
What are we really looking for in our quest? What do we want to understand? The list is large and all-consuming to many explorers, researchers and those deemed ‘experts’ in the field. The amount of activity and interest is growing, but who or what leads the way? The ‘field’ is certainly not unified as major divisions seem to be present between materialists and contact activists. Admittedly, the challenge of bridging that divide seems endless with science and speculation vying for attention.
Let’s step in the way-back machine for just a moment, shall we? What did we have or know early on that has been lost or ignored, rejected or unimportant in view of today’s technology? Below is some old footage of George Adamski’s from the early 1960s. Obviously in poor shape, it still offers evidence of how craft movements defy known physics then. The craft looks very similar to Billy Meier’s photos and video. Disclosure and discrediting seem inextricably linked.
Future Foundations for ETI Interaction
Fast forward to today, some 60 years later, and the expansion of the parameters of ufology to now include matters of consciousness, not just craft or physical evidence. Certainly, those behind the scenes and beyond public purview have information, volumes of it no doubt. Just what that information is may or may not be as detailed or expansive as many believe. It is conceivable that experiencers might have more information pertinent to the future of the field or even add to the information already gathered, if we only knew what it is.
The Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Extraterrestrial Encounters (FREE’s near-original name) began public surveys of ‘contactees’ or ‘experiencers’ as they are now being called. It’s hard to say just how valid the information will be determined to be, yet thousands have taken the surveys. The results are contained in the book Beyond UFOs, along with several papers written by Board Members. FREE’s co-founder, Rey Hernandez, has embarked on a next-level exploration of non-human intelligence with noted PhDs and others in the field of consciousness.
In the face of advancing interest and organizations vying for attention and money for research, it might be prudent to consider how we choose to view appropriate development. How humanity is served is as important as any technological advancements. Arguments over this or that evidence seems counterproductive to the larger picture of engagement and the future of Earth and humanity.
The Road Less Traveled
So far, for whatever reason, the level of engagement has been cursory at best when it comes to interaction with non-human races. We really don’t know where they are from or when, according to the lack of evidence and information to date, let alone who and why. Their choice, not ours. Why? How can we adjust? What do we need to do to prepare the way for open communication at least? These seem to be more important questions. How would a vast active living intelligence system answer them? How might we discern?
The safety and security of Earth is surely a concern, just as each nation has security issues with foreigners from other nations or worlds. A good look at the past might indicate what we can expect in the future. Beyond the anomalous stories of malevolent intent, there are no obvious signs of danger from other worlds. Suspicions are like superstitions that knowledge and wisdom eliminate over time. It is nearly impossible for a race that is suspicious toward one another to pause for unknown, apparently benign or beneficent, races to emerge safely.
Considering the nature of most contact experiences being telepathic, listening to more than an individual is not beyond the scope of possibility. What would our collective ‘thoughtmosphere’ offer to a race or races of highly advanced beings? After so many re-runs, somebody needs to turn off the TV. Our collective image via our own transmissions of radio, TV and thought is less than hospitable at present. We’re obsessed with violence throughout our passive entertainment choices, whether sports, movies, television shows or video games.
The scope of available opportunities for communication seems endless when we consider the non-linear and non-local nature of such, not to mention telepathic, yet the percentile of folks that can even think about or are engaged by off-planet races is minuscule at best. Common sense would offer that such folk would become objects of scrutiny with a loss of freedom to boot. That would be an inappropriate response, yet still too real at this time. Where will it go?
Perhaps there is a Giver of Data, like VALIS, or some other prevailing consciousness that is always ON and delivering messages as recipients become available. There is a growing number of ufologists that are exploring how frequency comes into play with ‘downloads’ or other kinds of communication. We don’t really have the material technology to determine that at present. However, the notion of frequency and/or frequency response does warrant consideration.
It’s conceivable that our rise to the level of a Type I civilization on the Kardashev scale would include certain advances in both brain and consciousness integration as well as material sciences and technology. Dr. Kaku seems to agree with those notions and more. The similarities between code-driven virtual environments, brain-mind capability and binary systems is incredible and the impetus of ZERO to ONE – Making Our Way Toward a Conscious Civilization, accessing that vast active living intelligence system of our own. The book started as a chapter for FREE’s next volume, requested by Rey Hernandez, and answering three questions and prompted more consideration beyond the page limitation for the chapter.
The author demonstrates that there is a huge space for our civilization and human intelligence to evolve by showing his personal experiences of interacting with advanced intelligence and his lifetime exploration of human nature, cosmology, UFOlogy, and the modalities of experiencing the paranormal powers with like-minded people.
I’ve been involved in overcoming fears and transcending them to be fearless, dealing with ‘others’ in various scenarios, for most of my life. I’ve had three decades of considerable engagement in Ufology, learning to be fearless, long before most of the folks today even had a clue of what was going on. I love the newcomers who’ve had an experience or even a few and want to beat people up sharing them.
Generally early experiencers, and even a lot of materialist/scientist types in the field, have no idea about the depths of consciousness and focus on the details of the events instead. Decades later they’ll have a different perspective for sure. It’s possible I’m stuck inside a paradigm, too, though my profession as a partnering facilitator calls me to always engage multiple POVs simultaneously, aligning them toward meeting project milestones in multi-million dollar contracts.
Continuing to think in the paradigm that creates an ‘us vs. them’ is a choice, right? That makes it subjective. When are we going to pull out heads out of our assess and realize it is our choice to continue to create the paradigm. The thing is that disclosure doesn’t mean a damn thing when it comes to addressing the bigger issues of our planetary civilization.
Considering Our Focus
We are so focused outside that we turn on ourselves and forget the inner needs and requests of our ‘mentors’ to learn how to get along. Claiming the elites want to thwart disclosure seems counter-intuitive, really. They face the same challenges we do as a planetary civilization. They don’t have ways for achieving an exodus to the Moon or Mars.
Here’s a question, though. Are we one? If we are then we can view things from that place of oneness and inquire as to what we might be able to observe as indicators, right? Is that being stuck inside one paradigm? All things considered, it seems to be a quantum view from a unified field perspective. Isn’t that where we’re headed?
There’s a guy that once said, “The secret of change is to focus all of your energy, not on fighting the old, but on building the new.”If you believe I have experience and knowledge, then maybe there is a different reason for my comments than you assumed. To launch into citing global warming, nuclear proliferation and wealth disparities had nothing to do with the comment. It was solely about how we think in fear-based terms and don’t realize it until someone comments on the obvious.
My point was that we need to eliminate the projections of the elites being afraid, or anyone being afraid for that matter. That’s a subjective perspective. If we are going to acknowledge that consciousness has a part in this and that quantum applications apply, then attention, intention and action is absolutely critical – where we put our thoughts is imperative to creating a movement. Starting out with an us vs. them attitude is so last century.
People rise to meet your view of them. Students thought to be gifted (even when they weren’t) performed at gifted levels because the teacher was told they were gifted students. I taught a class of exceptional students (low end of the spectrum) and they performed better than they imagined they could when given a research project. Why can’t we do that with cohorts, peers and others?
Is There a Consistent Message?
Most of the folks in Ufology are still stuck in a fear-based paradigm and tend to war with each other instead of trying to understand each other and grow together. Experiencers are telling others to shift their thinking to fearlessness, even harmony, and offering ways to do so. We’re being nurtured into a new living awareness but assumptions and projections certainly diminish that capacity for change.
Many if not most still point at the old paradigm. Things have changed. Today, or just recently, we’ve had more open talk about the reality than ever before, like Michio Kaku’s statements, let alone his attendance, at the World UFO Congress. Pilots aren’t threatened anymore. Even government officials are speaking up, so why continue to live in the past?
A friend offered this in response to a statement I made, though from the tone of the post this response was an inadvertent truth. “Expanding human consciousness in order to embrace a sense of oneness, a sense of unity between all life in the cosmos, is one a major theme that contact experiencers describe emerging from their interactions with UAP intelligences.” That is my point. I’ve stated that, but apparently that was missed.
Thoughts Regarding Disclosure
Many are pushing an agenda for governmental disclosure that they’ve known of our visitors for some time, and perhaps their purpose. Disclosure, imho, doesn’t have anything to do with the underlying activity or learning how to get along and work together toward collaborative solutions for our People and Planet. Please tell me how it does. I’m certainly open to consideration. Do UAP intelligences seem all that interested in Disclosure? It doesn’t seem so to me.
They continue to interact with those able and willing, right? What’s changed? There has been an ongoing process. It seems that UAPs or UFOs or whatever term we choose to label them with are flying about, attracting attention and having at least some communication with earthlings regarding their purpose here. The overwhelming majority of experiencers state it is a beneficent objective. Help is offered, only if we turn our attention on helping each other.
Is it possible that the elites don’t know anything more than the majority of the experiencers who have regular contact and conversations? Is it possible there are many experiencers who are working on solutions and don’t care to share they are experiencers? Choosing to confront or even discredit my assertions don’t make them false. Most folks are just so uncomfortable that instead of consideration there is immediate denial.
The reason I say disclosure doesn’t mean a damn thing is because the planetary civilization is responsible for their own changes and admitting we’re being visited doesn’t have anything to do with addressing the real issues. It should, in fact, get us to look at how our guests see us. What kind of house are we keeping? Who in Ufology are working with organizations or scientists looking for solutions to global problems? Those are our true compatriots.
In my entire history in this field, and others professionally, I’ve stressed the ‘message’ of needing to learn to work together, even provided platforms for folks to example it. I’ve personally invited dozens to do so on UfologyPress, even set them up with author accounts. Has anyone participated, even if only to show their desire for solidarity? NO. My intent is simply to offer help, to actualize what others are only talking about; the collaboration of cohorts.
It’s possible the I’m not a ‘valued’ figure in Ufology or part of the ‘in’ crowd that has everyone’s attention. I’ve attempted to garner some attention, proposed presentations, and even with personal relationship there has been no acceptance or invitation to be part of the speaker cohort. I do have some tested methods for creating contact without having to find secluded areas to do CE-5 events. A serendipitous event, a request to meditated to some music I helped produce,brought that into reality and further trials demonstrated its validity.
That being said it is still an intended hopeful to bridge fields, to cross-reference similar understandings and to make sense common to the point of actual collaborative efforts toward harmony among people and planet, a sustainability we can only reach through cooperation. We first need to take a good hard look at our behavior and intentions.
I’m reminded of the Wall coming down and one of my favorite bands of all time celebrating its anniversary with a tribute to both David Bowie and our ability to remove the walls across the gamut of national or international boundaries. It needs fearlessness in doing so, regardless of who is leading the way. Are our intentions to create a new world order of harmony among people and planet? What are we allowing to be distractions to that end?
New Year’s Resolutions – Timid or Transformational?
Wasn’t the ending of 2017 an amazing experience, with all the disclosure inferences and shenanigans? Happy New Year, Earthlings… (exo)Politics anyone? We all know that disclosure is an ongoing process and that those truly involved aren’t about to dilute their work with attention getting antics like some folks seem to be doing. You know, everything is helpful in getting people to seriously question the reality of the times we live in, right?
Now this probably won’t be read by those who are actively engaged in politics at this time. Still, we have some exciting news about the progress of our work here in Arizona. It may come as a surprise, but the reality of bringing any kind of exopolitical experience to Earth might just begin with some of us so inclined to engage the system. This cosmic 2×4 was slapped up side my head back in 2012 when I got the impression to research the existence of the Independent Party in Arizona.
What I found was that nothing had been done and, apparently, it was there for me to do. The domain structure for the Party, after looking at other States, was www.independence(state).com so when I looked for the availability of IndependenceArizona.com there was no claim to date. I immediately purchased it and went to work on the website, creating some basic content around the theme of ‘Making Sense Common.’ Other things in life garnered my attention for several years until just after Christmas 2017 when a comment was made on the site that precipitated a face-to-face conversation and ignited things again.
On New Year’s Eve we registered the trade name ‘Independent Party of Arizona’ and formed Independent Party of Arizona LLC to get the ball rolling. Our New Year’s resolution became getting the Independent Party recognized by the State of Arizona, which it is not. Further research found the requirements and subsequent ancillary activities and paperwork that needs to be filed, all of which we are in process of now. Our slogan became ‘Making Sense Common’ and specifically refers to education, energy, environment, health care and social systems.
The simple side of the work is that we’ll need about 24,000 signatures to get the job done. The Independent Party of Arizona bridges parties as well as cultural communities and is what America was set up to do. Arizona has the golden opportunity to set the standard for coalescing multiple concerns and factions toward a cohesive and collaborative administration. The result of such would change the course of current deficits and inability to serve our population in so many ways. It would also catapult the use of alternative energy production through the combined efforts of communities and commercial development.
I’ve always enjoyed grassroots activity and have been involved in many local/state initiatives over the years, beginning with representing the Phoenix Indian School Preservation Coalition in 1991, a coalition made up of representatives from 18 of the 21 Tribes in Arizona intending to have the newly designated Indian School Park designed with indigenous Native American features. I was the non-Indian who was asked to chronicle the details and present them to the Mayor of Phoenix and his staff along with the Parks and Recreation Planning Sub-Committee.
I was also involved the the Arizona Coalition for Peace, Justice and the Environment and worked to help coordinate quarterly meetings around the State of Arizona for several years. It was a most profoundly life-changing experience that helped me to realize how much ‘help’ is available from ‘other’ sources to those who are involved in positive change in the world. After all, the consistent message from the ETs is that we must step up to affect changes in our world. They will assist from a distance, but it is up to each one of us to be practical in our application of understanding consciousness and the process of change/evolution for our world.
There was a collection of brilliant and inspirational speakers gathered for The Prophets Conference in Phoenix back in 1997, among them were Dr. Edgar Mitchell, Jose Arguelles, Lyssa Royal, Hunbatz Men, David Icke, Robert Anton Wilson, Joan Ocean, Dr. Steven Greer and Zecharia Sitchin. As the event manager I had opportunities for conversations beyond the norm in private, an opportunity I took advantage of to inquire and understand further how the integration of consciousness and community can be further engaged.
In that regard, it is an honor to be tapped on the shoulder to perform at this level. My intention has always been to be an example; someone that my parents, children and grand children are proud of even if it takes a long time for them to recognize the triumphs over trials and tribulations from a slow-moving and resistant paradigm that has been in place for far too long. It’s too late for my parents, at least my adoptive ones. Still, the sensation of being tasked with this challenge brings me to new levels of integrated activity with my cosmic crew. Perhaps it might inspire others to step up and apply their skill set toward building the new.
The secret to change is to focus all of your energy, not on fighting the old, but on building the new. Socrates