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Correlating Material – Non-human Intelligence Communication

Non-Human Intelligence Conveys Unimaginable Truths

Intelligence conveys that Ufology has long been plagued by the NHI side of the coin, beyond the nuts and bolts or theIntelligence conveys meaning with Beyond UFOs tangible evidence we tend to seek. The physical evidence is something we can touch. It’s real to us. In more recent years the non-physical is becoming just as important, though the mainstream Ufologists tend to dismiss it.

In the last decade efforts have been made to investigate the experiencer side of the coin. FREE’s surveys and book Beyond UFOs provides a great deal of data, though it is nearly all subjective and contributing authors are still searching to turn theory into reality. We all do, yet how to we manage the information effectively?

Most experiencers have non-physical events, that which we might call ‘multidimensional’ in the sense that a variety of phenomena occur within the consciousness of the individual across a spectrum of worlds. It varies in style and type across what are being called the ‘contact modalities’ in one study, a collection of surveys designed specifically for experiencers. As crude as the survey may be, the data collected indicates much more is happening than Ufology, in general, has been willing to acknowledge.

Whether the details of the surveys are incontrovertible isn’t the point – intelligence conveys meaning. There are enough details and similarities within the ‘experiencer community’ (even though there really isn’t one) that notice needs to be taken. Kaku’s statement about the burden of proof is certainly inconsequential in such matters, but his mention of higher-ordered civilizations might cause us to explore further. What would a Type III civilization behave like toward the lesser evolved?

Further, what about those who are non-corporeal and ever-present be like?

Seth Speaks – Wherefore Art Thou?

Shakespeare certainly delivered esoteric knowledge in his works, perhaps garnered from another world or non-physical consciousness of his time. There are rumors of Francis Bacon and St. Germain that still reverberate in the metaphysical community. Who really knows? The interesting fact is that both are still referenced today. We have a history of ‘spirit’ communication and what has been called ‘channeling’ spanning millennia. Those throughout history have usually been condemned or even killed as a result of human fear and superstition.

Can we still allow fear and superstition to rule our modern world? It seems so, even in light of the scientific advancements of the last half-century or so. The intellect is ahead of the societal trends, though the population is being educated by modern mainstream media. The recent releases of UAP footage is only the beginning of a massive change of awareness. Even in spite of that are the religious superstitions that abound from those who cannot comprehend change, projecting the idea that ETs are demons. That is just nonsense to the rational mind.

In my personal experience, until recently, I’ve not seen much mention of Seth’s information for a long time, a work that came through Jane Roberts decades ago. I did not realize how much of an impact it was for me, settling in the recesses of my memory and mind and trickling out over the decades. Of course channeled material is always a bit suspicious, however, the truth for each individual can be felt beyond those suspicions. This is a rather long listen, but worth the time….

What prompted the revisiting was a dream I had yesterday, where I encountered an individualseth material - intelligence conveys meaning who was to introduce me to a group of ‘others’ who were working in other realms, what most would call ‘ETs.’ Most ‘seasoned’ experiencers have at least semi-regular dreams that we know are more, sometimes completely lucid and fully participating as though we were awake and aware. This was one of those kind of dreams for me.

The setting was a kind of boardwalk type of area with open shops and cafes all around, knowing the ocean was just beyond its boundaries yet still out of sight. I was led to a particular shop that had a mixture of artifacts on shelves and racks of colorful attire arranged on the floor space. Four individuals stood out, in what appeared to be white costumes with darker fabric accents, like you’d see featured on performers or band mates from the 60s TV shows.

There were three male and one female figures. As we approached they were gentle and personable to the extreme, even felt like I should know them from my past somehow. I still have this question of ‘who am I?’ that rolls around in my head during these kinds of events. It’s obvious I’m not ‘just’ human. Intelligence conveys much more. The female, as though she heard my thoughts specifically mentioned the name Seth as an identity closely related to me, though I didn’t quite understand how until listening to this material. It relates to many things I see being discussed in the quest for understanding multidimensional consciousness, space and time today.

To continue in some sort of logical progression..

I guess since first being introduced to it so many years ago, I’ve quested for a visceral understanding, an experience if you will, because of the profound resonance I felt with the material. Be careful what you ask for because it can get very intense. The journey, excruciatingly hilarious at times, has been full of magic and mystery that seems to unfold from within the experience itself and spill out into waking reality. It leaves reference points that eventually connect with others as questions rise to questions and the answers, well, they often leave me feeling inarticulate.

From Grant Cameron via FB… Understanding this will start to explain what is actually behind the UFO intelligence. It also matches with what Josef Ronan’s being said, “The way you see us is defined by you…When we visit your world, we temporarily have a physical body defined in a certain way, but it is not the only form, or our original essence, in our dimension, there is no need for a physical body defined in a particular way as in yours.

“You share the definitions of reality that are given to you, but you are not yet aware of it.” Josef’s words also reflect the understanding of what intelligence conveys and what we might call cosmic consciousness condensed into form, or at least that’s my contribution. We choose how we engage it, always; it is how we create or contribute to the whole. The more we realize those choices are not limited, perhaps we’ll see that the need for fear and repression subsides. What often happens when one begins to explore what Jane (Seth), Josef and others are saying are moments of synchronicity and an elevated sense of joy, when we can acquiesce to the flow of energy.

When we are unable, there is a sense of friction that builds, the mind goes numb and fear takes over, stifling any opportunity for deeper connection with an expanded reality. Most initial experiences with ‘other’ intelligence cause a momentary clenching of the body’s nervous system. The choice to breathe through it and open one’s senses without expectation resolves in truly magnificent events.

Ufologists tend to see things through few lenses, which makes the cross-referencing of material even more critical to the seeker of truth. The latter goes beyond just the truth of Ufology because the ‘field,’ as Lynne McTaggart called it, encompasses our reality, not just a small sliver of it. Viewing data and information though narrow slits might work well for physics, however, our experience of living is so expansive we have just scratched the surface.

Seth’s information, whether we are aware of it or not, has influenced and entire generation of explorers in consciousness and the expanded reality Ufology now has to grapple with in 2020. There is too much information from modern experiencers that warrants consideration and even investigation as to how close these initial communications turn out to be true. We’ve viewed the ability to communicate across boundaries as pseudo-science or even dismissed it entirely for decades, even millennia, yet it persists nonetheless.

Nuts and bolts Ufologists tend to dismiss the esoteric or non-physical and the metaphysical out of hand and/or discredit or disavow those who have a natural ability to move beyond the confines of our material world. We have records of those able to do it throughout history, yet we generally only refer to history. To bring it into the present means we have to admit it is real. How difficult is that for modern explorers who are genuinely seeking better ways to understand the phenomena and the risks involved? Reality sucks sometimes for those who deny it.

Vast Active Living Intelligence System

Sci-Fi or Potential Reality

VALIS (Vast Active Living Intelligence System) was introduced by Philip K. Dick as a science fiction novel. VALIS was a satellite that was part of a network across the galaxy interacting with other intelligent life. It was literally a Vast Active Living Intelligence System designed to target and communicate with certain people. The interaction, much like contact experiences and ETI communications, caused an evolution of consciousness which threatened the status quo. Sounds familiar, huh?

Published in 1981, its affects can be seen throughout the consciousness movement and ufology as well. Dick was known for Blade Runner, Total Recall and The Minority Report among others. His insight and inspiration, much like The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick, provides things all to close to the theme today; aspiring experiencers desiring to learn how to work as one. It makes one wonder just how connected Dick was, so parallel to what many are experiencing as real.

Perhaps the Black Knight might have been his inspiration as well. What is absolutely true is this vast active living intelligence system is a reality within humans and other species. It is another description of the ‘cosmic’ consciousness paradoxically self-directed yet so intricately symbiotic with people, planet and posterity. As we increase the knowledge base, internal and external, the capacity for cognition and collaboration in concert rises.

Vast Active Living Intelligence System of Earth

What ever the communication device, religion or revelation, the consistency across fields of study could be leading us toward an increased capacity for planetary management, too. Why does that make a difference or should we care? What does that have to do with UFOs or their inhabitants; visitors from afar with confusing methods of communication toward humans? They don’t appear to communicate in ways we are accustomed, yet there are volumes of material, direct experiences, where messages are shared an no regression necessary to retrieve.

The excitement over the recent disclosure and discovery being shared with the general public seems anti-climatic, though. It’s a new news cycle for many that haven’t been following the fray and are aware of the dichotomy of experiencer vs researcher in the Ufology community. In the Tao of Ufology, if there were one, the two have distinct yet equal value in moving us all forward. The challenge comes in sifting through the onslaught of information and finding consistent value, something that leads us toward making our own world better and receptive to future engagement of Extraterrestrials in whatever style we can collectively perceive.

Individuals and entities, organizations and others, are often obfuscated by the marauders in the media and within the fray, perhaps well-intentioned at times yet certainly adding to the frustration within the Ufology community and beyond. The added complexity of current environmental and political world affairs not only increases the importance of communication, it requires us to rethink our methodology and purpose for it. We know ‘they’ (various races in yet undetermined alliances and numbers) are indeed here and actively engaging many.

Human Intelligence Systems

The types and styles of engagement vary as well, leaving a certain nebulous notion that we are somehow vulnerable to outside influences or unintended engagement; victims of circumstance. Attempts are being made to access, organize and sift through similarities of experiencers that hopefully will offer some consistent experiences, themes and/or vulnerabilities within our individual and collective belief systems. The information age is leading us toward practical and pragmatic concerns beyond religious or superstitious separative tendencies.

What are we really looking for in our quest? What do we want to understand? The list is large and all-consuming to many explorers, researchers and those deemed ‘experts’ in the field. The amount of activity and interest is growing, but who or what leads the way? The ‘field’ is certainly not unified as major divisions seem to be present between materialists and contact activists. Admittedly, the challenge of bridging that divide seems endless with science and speculation vying for attention.

Let’s step in the way-back machine for just a moment, shall we? What did we have or know early on that has been lost or ignored, rejected or unimportant in view of today’s technology? Below is some old footage of George Adamski’s from the early 1960s. Obviously in poor shape, it still offers evidence of how craft movements defy known physics then. The craft looks very similar to Billy Meier’s photos and video. Disclosure and discrediting seem inextricably linked.

Future Foundations for ETI Interaction

Fast forward to today, some 60 years later, and the expansion of the parameters of ufology to now include matters of consciousness, not just craft or physical evidence. Certainly, those behind the scenes and beyond public purview have information, volumes of it no doubt. Just what that information is may or may not be as detailed or expansive as many believe. It is conceivable that experiencers might have more information pertinent to the future of the field or even add to the information already gathered, if we only knew what it is.

The Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Extraterrestrial Encounters (FREE’s near-original name) began public surveys of ‘contactees’ or ‘experiencers’ as they are now being called. It’s hard to say just how valid the information will be determined to be, yet thousands have taken the surveys. The results are contained in the book Beyond UFOs, along with several papers written by Board Members. FREE’s co-founder, Rey Hernandez, has embarked on a next-level exploration of non-human intelligence with noted PhDs and others in the field of consciousness.

In the face of advancing interest and organizations vying for attention and money for research, it might be prudent to consider how we choose to view appropriate development. How humanity is served is as important as any technological advancements. Arguments over this or that evidence seems counterproductive to the larger picture of engagement and the future of Earth and humanity.

The Road Less Traveled

So far, for whatever reason, the level of engagement has been cursory at best when it comes to interaction with non-human races. We really don’t know where they are from or when, according to the lack of evidence and information to date, let alone who and why. Their choice, not ours. Why? How can we adjust? What do we need to do to prepare the way for open communication at least? These seem to be more important questions. How would a vast active living intelligence system answer them? How might we discern?

The safety and security of Earth is surely a concern, just as each nation has security issues with foreigners from other nations or worlds. A good look at the past might indicate what we can expect in the future. Beyond the anomalous stories of malevolent intent, there are no obvious signs of danger from other worlds. Suspicions are like superstitions that knowledge and wisdom eliminate over time. It is nearly impossible for a race that is suspicious toward one another to pause for unknown, apparently benign or beneficent, races to emerge safely.

Considering the nature of most contact experiences being telepathic, listening to more than an individual is not beyond the scope of possibility. What would our collective ‘thoughtmosphere’ offer to a race or races of highly advanced beings? After so many re-runs, somebody needs to turn off the TV. Our collective image via our own transmissions of radio, TV and thought is less than hospitable at present. We’re obsessed with violence throughout our passive entertainment choices, whether sports, movies, television shows or video games.

The scope of available opportunities for communication seems endless when we consider the non-linear and non-local nature of such, not to mention telepathic, yet the percentile of folks that can even think about or are engaged by off-planet races is minuscule at best. Common sense would offer that such folk would become objects of scrutiny with a loss of freedom to boot. That would be an inappropriate response, yet still too real at this time. Where will it go?

Perhaps there is a Giver of Data, like VALIS, or some other prevailing consciousness that is always ON and delivering messages as recipients become available. There is a growing number of ufologists that are exploring how frequency comes into play with ‘downloads’ or other kinds of communication. We don’t really have the material technology to determine that at present. However, the notion of frequency and/or frequency response does warrant consideration.

It’s conceivable that our rise to the level of a Type I civilization on the Kardashev scale would include certain advances in both brain and consciousness integration as well as material sciences and technology. Dr. Kaku seems to agree with those notions and more. The similarities between code-driven virtual environments, brain-mind capability and binary systems is incredible and the impetus of ZERO to ONE – Making Our Way Toward a Conscious Civilization, accessing that vast active living intelligence system of our own. The book started as a chapter for FREE’s next volume, requested by Rey Hernandez, and answering three questions and prompted more consideration beyond the page limitation for the chapter.

vast active living intelligence systemThe author demonstrates that there is a huge space for our civilization and human intelligence to evolve by showing his personal experiences of interacting with advanced intelligence and his lifetime exploration of human nature, cosmology, UFOlogy, and the modalities of experiencing the paranormal powers with like-minded people.

New Reference Material – Beyond UFOs

Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness and…

For several years now, data has been collected and correlated by a dedicated group of folks under the banner of the Dr. Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial Experiences (FREE). The organization, like many, has gone through some iterations and changed to Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Experiences, although they haven’t added an ‘E.’ Their surveys are directed toward contactees or ‘experiencers’ of this phenomena.

From their website: “BEYOND UFOS: THE SCIENCE OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND CONTACT WITH NON HUMAN INTELLIGENCE”.  After 4 years of conducting the world’s first comprehensive multi-language and international academic research study on UFO related Contact with Non Human Intelligence (NHI), The FREE Foundation has finally published its new book!

From a promotional email:

FREE is in the 5th year of administering the world’s first comprehensive, multi-language worldwide academic research study on individuals that have had Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) related contact experiences with Non-Human Intelligence (NHI)–   The FREE Experiencer Research Study.

The Dr. Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Experiences, or FREE, is a 501c3 not for profit academic research foundation. FREE was co-founded by the late Apollo 14 astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, Harvard University Astrophysicist Dr. Rudy Schild, Australian researcher Mary Rodwell, and Rey Hernandez, an attorney, a UAP Contact Experiencer, and Ph.D. candidate at UC Berkeley. Over the last 5 years, the FREE Foundation has had over 10 Ph.D.s, mostly retired academic professors, and 20 other lay researchers, volunteering in this research study. FREE’s Executive Director is Dr. Rudy Schild, a retired Astrophysicist from Harvard University.

Due to the controversial nature of the FREE research data, the UAP-related contact phenomenon is not studied in universities.  Even the field of “Parapsychology” continues to view the UAP contact phenomena as a taboo topic and the majority within parapsychology do not want to be directly associated with the UAP phenomenon.  FREE’s academic research study seeks to address this problem.  Until we began our research, no one had a basic understanding on the topic of UAP-related contact with Non-Human Intelligence (NHI). Why? Because the basic research data collection on this topic was never undertaken.  We discovered that many of our survey findings contradict much of what has been circulating in the field of Ufology. The true story of UAP-related contact with Non-Human Intelligence was not being accurately presented. FREE’s work is thus a paradigm-shifting event.

As you will soon observe from our data, FREE’s research suggests that the physical aspects of this phenomenon are but a small fraction of attributes associated with these complex manifestations. Indeed, it is the pervasive non-physicality, the parapsychological and other paranormal aspects, that comprise the majority of survey respondents’ experiences.

What can we do with all this data? Now, nearly 5 years later after the concerted effort to develop the surveys and distill the information into usable forms there is an obvious revelation in not only are these encounters real, they are much more prevalent than previously thought. Thousands of events have gone into the compilation of the statistics in order to share the relationships. No where else has this been accomplished yet. This volume is a requirement for any serious ufology research and anyone interested in the evolution of our consciousness and interaction with that which is beyond human.

The contributors to the book also share nearly the same views from their observations and research, let alone their personal experiences, presenting their ideas from a variety of perspectives that meet the scholarly requirements for a great work and leading-edge research in what has traditionally been a hands-off fashion for lack of empirical data and/or repeatable event construction. The nature of these encounters is certainly more random yet perhaps as the information is shared and studied there will be better questions that help us to understand and even participate in the phenomena.

If you are here and reading this, then you owe it to yourself to get the book.


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WAKING UP for SURVIVAL and a SANE EXOPOLITICAL OPPORTUNITY

We need to WAKE UP and to improve our alignment with existence and with Ultimate Reality: We so much need to collectively wake up into a greater caring of life and cooperation or else stupidly destroy our lives, that of animals, plants in this wonderful Earth-water world of life and opportunity! As you know, a major question is how to stimulate a healthy engagement in society in order to care about these issues. So many individuals do not care and most opinion and cultural leaders (orthodox and non-orthodox) doing their own thing.

I also think that a collective realization that we are actually engaging a more technologically advanced, “non-human” intelligence will force more of us out of our comforting denials. By realizing that (quantitatively) we are a speck of aware reality among trillions and trillions and trillions of such specks, our sense of self-sufficiency, hubris or pride may diminish. But, in order not to remain floored by this realization that we are not unique or special (or perhaps not even a product of isolated evolution in our planet), a realization that may be compounded by a nightmare failure of our political-economic systems, we will have to agree upon a meta-theoretical basis in which all of reality (what we call “living” and “non-living”) is interconnected and under rules of engagement which demand respect from civilizations which truly understand this.

In this integrative and interpretive basis, the shared truths in religions, all fields of knowledge, science, consciousness would be understood as necessary aspects. The singular and plural in terms of the objective and subjective as Ken Wilber proposes. Then, if this meta-philosophy serves to explain the physics involving macro scale effects of space-time manipulation and the use and meaning of consciousness, a shared world philosophy would become plausible.

Thus, I think that we first need to be shocked out of our complacency by a revelation that we are not alone, that we are not so special that the cosmos rolls around us. Then, we will need an explanation both providing practical effects (a more “magical” technology) and an unquestionable understanding that we and all of reality is connected.

Such realizations would contradict our animalistic, self-centered, egotistic adaptations that constantly separate us into self-assertive clans that conflict with each other. The, either our human nature already contains the flexibility to adapt (through education and community) to the more consciously connected socio-political system that would logically follow or we would find ways to activate (or perhaps modify) our genetic potential that would surpass our basic status, fear-based and short thinking self-assertive, animalistic tendencies.

Thus, the future human evolutionary process may be marked by the following necessary (also distinct but interconnected) stages: 1) Shock and Surprise 2) The existential Need for Re-evaluation 3) Comprehensive-Practical, Integrative Meta-Theory (or Meta-Theories), 3) Self-directed modification and/or enhancement of our human nature/our tendencies.

And the fact that cooperating with the good of others in the universal order of things is adaptive to our discovery of and adaptive to our increasing engagement with an inseparable, participatory reality by itself would not be sufficient to ground a solid ethical perspective.

Contingency, connectivity, mutation, evolution-devolution entails a lack of self-existing actuality and for this reason, its cause is in the absolute, beyond opposites, even beyond the idea of “non-being.” We still need to be aware that an objective, ethical appreciation of and respect for the orderly connectivity and lives of contingent beings also requires an absolute frame of reference: The Ground of Being, God, Source, the Divine Presence, Allah, Buddha-datu, within which all contingent consciousnesses and/or beings exist in various levels of awareness, engagement, alignment or negation of he-she-it (reference pronoun metaphors).

Without a sense of submission and alignment with the Source of Good/ The Good itself in which we inseparably live, but whose essence/nature (which infinitely transcends any contingent understanding) we will continue our self-asserting power games, hurting lives. Thus, even a quantum or a post-quantum physics of connectivity or a physics of the hologram which recognizes consciousness as limited to the physics is insufficient and possibly the next main peril into a complicated collective Freudian “denial” and Jungian “shadow” which we might carry into subsequent evolutionary stages. Perhaps some advanced extraterrestrial “races” able to use the internal patterns of the universe in a transdimensional manner to move around physical realities fell prey to this temptation, another temptation into hubris and self-sufficiency…the arrogance of separation and self-sufficiency through technologies or other means.

Part of the language that produces religious allergies in “free thinkers” is there but this is not a proposal to return to an authoritarian, religious version of what truth is. It is a call to transcend all religions and see what connects them; to transcend the limits of orthodox science and to include consciousness without limiting it to the contingent to connectivity, holograms, uncertainty, the zero-point, physics.

By grounding subjectivity affecting objects (as in quantum physics and psychic effects) and objects of experience affecting subjectivity… by grounding the existence of consciousness and matter (both as elements of parts and wholes, singularities and collectivities) under a fundamental duality originating in the Nondual can we find a wise path and recover an adequate sense of placement.

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Secret Space Program… What are we to think?

There has been speculation about a secret space program for decades. Some information and proponents (whistleblowers) have entered the Ufology scene on many occasions over the years. It seem the debate is reaching epic proportions now with the various ‘experts’ in the field.

I have to profess I do not know Corey Goode, but I do David Wilcock. I’ve known the latter for over a decade and I find his sharing of information seems to be solely based on regurgitation rather than sincere research. He sure has the attention of a lot of folks, but is it a genuine and sincere representation of the facts that are ‘out there’ for us all to discover?

I’ve observed Andrew Basiago for some years now, always a bit uneasy in my perception of him, paralleled with what I sense with Randy Kramer. I love to believe stuff, though, so my spidey sense may or may not be correct. I tend to trust it although I don’t always have outright proof to back it up.

That being said, I’ve known Richard Dolan and Michael Salla for a while; Richard and few years and some time in personal conversations that were relevant as well as Michael, whom I’ve known for over a decade. We greet each other by name and pleasantries always. Both have done their fair share of research and have intelligent if not brilliant minds.

Their personalities are juxtaposed by their gullible and suspicious natures, it seems. Their professional admiration and respect for each other allows some interesting dialog about this [SSP] particular subject recently. There appears to be sufficient magnetizm to the subject to polarize many and, imho, perhaps manages to distract us from and obfuscate the truth.

It seemed to start with Bill Ryan’s bold statement and video a few months back. I also know Bill to be a relatively level-headed individual whom I’ve known about as long as Michael Salla. I met Bill and Kerry Cassidy during the early days of Project Camelot (no longer partners and the last time I saw Kerry she seemed out of control paranoid) during a conversation with Ralph Ring at the IUFOC in Laughlin in 2007. I didn’t know who they were at the time, but seemed to be lurking waiting to speak to Ralph, so we invited them to sit with us.

Nowadays there are many factions playing out in the field of Ufology and few of them, other than a few true professionals, focus on congruent and/or consistent threads of information that come from different sources, as a sign of potential reality in truth. Individuals with non-verifiable information and/or documentation that is only validated by one or two individuals still remains a bit suspicious, but does not make it false.

Richard Dolan has always seemed to be a consummate professional, as well as Michael Salla. Both have responded differently and have engaged an interesting public dialog, Richard in his usual straightforward nature and Michael sharing what he believes to be validation. It seems they both are getting extra press as well as the whistleblowers.

I tend to wonder just how any ‘leaks’ of information would really benefit the public. The programs are perhaps undeniable and, at best, spoken of only in passing interest but certainly not available as any transparent program as of yet. The public may not be able to handle the truth, frankly. It does provide for some very interesting debate and distraction from our daily travails, though.

I wonder if there is yet something more at play, beyond the ‘secrecy’ and more in the open for anyone to experience. We all are familiar with the best hiding places, right? That would be right out in the open and so incredulous to most that it is easily and quickly dismissed by nearly everyone except a few.

I think Ruth Montgomery and others wrote about such things decades ago and their topics still don’t see the light of day in hardly any organized Ufology events. As a final thought, I wonder how the secret space program got thrown into Ufology in the first place.

And the debate goes on…